Mind Character Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 And so it begins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbybrown Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 To the Darnold fans can you please point me to a QB that turned it over as much as he does in college that went onto have NFL success? if not why is Darnold different? I see the wow throws. I also saw wow throws from Derek Anderson edit it to add. I see the tools, I see the leadership but so many guys have had tools, leardership and had far fewer turnovers yet still busted hard. Why is Darnold different? this is coming from someone who wants to like him. I’m pulling for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbite Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, hornbybrown said: To the Darnold fans can you please point me to a QB that turned it over as much as he does in college that went onto have NFL success? if not why is Darnold different? I see the wow throws. I also saw wow throws from Derek Anderson edit it to add. I see the tools, I see the leadership but so many guys have had tools, leardership and had far fewer turnovers yet still busted hard. Why is Darnold different? this is coming from someone who wants to like him. I’m pulling for him Matt Ryan 29 Interceptions Jr & Sr. Year Sam Darnold 22 Interceptions Fr and So Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbybrown Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dogbite said: Matt Ryan 29 Interceptions Jr & Sr. Year Sam Darnold 22 Interceptions Fr and So Year How’s it look when you add fumbles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbite Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, hornbybrown said: How’s it look when you add fumbles? Don't know cannot find a site with Fumbles. You find one and I'll tally it for ya Here are some more guy who like to throw the ball to the other team Ben Roethlisberger 21 Interceptions DeShaun Watson 30 Interceptions Matthew Stafford 20 Interceptions Eli Manning 25 Inteceptions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 31 minutes ago, Dogbite said: Don't know cannot find a site with Fumbles. You find one and I'll tally it for ya Here are some more guy who like to throw the ball to the other team Ben Roethlisberger 21 Interceptions DeShaun Watson 30 Interceptions Matthew Stafford 20 Interceptions Eli Manning 25 Inteceptions 11 fumbles this year, 8 lost. 9 fumbles last year 5 lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbybrown Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 33 minutes ago, Dogbite said: Don't know cannot find a site with Fumbles. You find one and I'll tally it for ya Here are some more guy who like to throw the ball to the other team Ben Roethlisberger 21 Interceptions DeShaun Watson 30 Interceptions Matthew Stafford 20 Interceptions Eli Manning 25 Inteceptions More than I thought it would be, he still scares me... but I won’t hate the pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Winston threw 18 picks his last year fwiw. I wouldn’t be too concerned about the picks from a really young qb, especially if they’re due to trying to do too much, which many of his are, as those can get cleaned up with experience and a better supporting cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doumeyer Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Do you still love Darnold, over Rosen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Last nights game reminded me of the Derek Carr vs USC Bowl game. Carr and his offense just got overwhelmed by the USC defense and people started to question Carr. Hopefully they don’t do it to Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 hours ago, doumeyer said: Do you still love Darnold, over Rosen? Do you honestly think Rosen and UCLA would of looked better? tOSU would of teed off even worse on that UCLA OL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztec Hammer Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 That was huge talent mismatch. As I've been saying for a long time, USC are massively overrated. Darnold has carried them winning 21 games and losing 4. Tonight is a hard one to evaluate and important not to overreact because that o-line was eaten alive by the Ohio State d-line. He threw a really bad pick but the whole game was littered with great throws to the sidelines, dropping it in the bucket. The refs also left a few obvious pass interference calls on the field. He also showed that he has good mobility and very proficient at throwing on the run. The turnovers don't bother me hugely because there have been numerous great NFL QBs that had the same issue, if not threw even more in college. What bothers me is Clay Helton and Tee Martin. Awful, predictable offense that Darnold needs to move on from. The running game, the backs motioning out to a fake swing pass. All so predictable and Ohio State were left to feast on Darnold all night. If we give him a progressive coaching staff and patience, there's no reason he can't be really good. He's still got a lot of room to develop. I'm all for us signing Alex Smith and letting Darnold sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aztec Hammer Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Also want to add I am VERY interested in what Baker does during the playoffs. I don't like that he throws to wide open players and doesn't have to throw with much anticipation, but there's no denying his accuracy is in point and well, he's just a massive winner with stats as efficient as you can get. If he goes into the playoffs and rips up two NFL caliber defenses... I'm not sure how one can continue to deny him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, Aztec Hammer said: Also want to add I am VERY interested in what Baker does during the playoffs. I don't like that he throws to wide open players and doesn't have to throw with much anticipation, but there's no denying his accuracy is in point and well, he's just a massive winner with stats as efficient as you can get. If he goes into the playoffs and rips up two NFL caliber defenses... I'm not sure how one can continue to deny him. Age is such a factor for me personally so it’s hard to compare Darnold to Mayfield. No one was hyping Mayfield after he threw a pair of picks and was blown out last year by OSU (despite getting 170 ish yards on the ground from his backs) and he was a year older/more experienced than Darnold is now. Obviously you want guys who perform well, but part of talent evaluation is projecting what they may become. I just wonder what Darnold might be doing to college defense in 2 more years? What if he has legit NFL talent all around him? Darnold had a rough night, no doubt, but it’s hard to criticize a guy when he is getting sacked as soon as he sets his feet. What we did see though were some absolutely all-world throws along the sidelines. He dropped more throws in the bucket last night than Kizer has all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reginaldm9 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 For the record, I like Rosen more than Darnold, but there's no chance we take Rosen with all of this animosity out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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