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Browns trade Baker Mayfield to Carolina for conditional 2024 5th


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2 hours ago, SkippyX said:

The receipts is another pathetic straw man. I know and admit to 20+ posts about Hardin. You can't seem to admit to the other 70-100+ that are not about Hardin. 

 

Being a lawyer does not make your opinion better. It might make the way you spend days or weeks crafting opening statements or specific legal arguments better. None of us are doing that here. Its just more bad logic. Lawyers have no general bonus points on debate. Specific trial lawyers may be excellent at debate and some part of the general public may be excellent at debate regardless of their profession. There are hundreds of thousands of lawyers who never try cases before a jury. There are also lots of them who are just OK or are bad at it. If you need to pretend your side has more merit because dudes are or are pretending to be lawyers then your argument is obviously weak.

 

If one of these "we da best argument" lawyers wants to start up a thread where they take the time to craft a well thought out position using research and testing it out among peers then I'd be happy to read it with an open mind. Blather about Peyton Manning in college = Watson is guilty is something a clown would say. It does not matter if that clown is a lawyer.

Have these 10 or so football fanatics / lawyers professionally studied the Watson case? If not then move on from pretending lawyer means always right. As far as I know not one of them brought up Grand Jury packets from defense counsel used in Houston criminal court before the reporting on it came out.. If they are these godlike experts then why didn't they talk about them ahead of time? The answer of course is ignorance. Being a lawyer does not grant you special secret knowledge. Only hard work, research, and study does that.

 

Your opinion is worth the same as everyone else's. We are all wrong something like 40-60% of the time on a message board like this. The people who think they are always right are the Dunning Kruger types. Those same people love to claim that others are wrong the vast majority of the time. Its textbook behavior. BTW, I agree with you the vast majority of the time (almost lockstep on the Texans) We just have a few strongly heated disagreements.

What I got from this post is that you’re using a lot of mental gymnastics to justify why you know more than a lawyer in general, as well as the lawyers on this forum. But obviously it’s all about the ability to debate, vs you know, having any actual legal knowledge 🙄

Last year I jokingly referred to you as a parrot because you stupidly used bullet points of Stafford’s past OCs to put him down as well as the Rams for the trade. I now take back what I said. A parrot at least would have more common sense and intelligence than to write what you just did.

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3 hours ago, Xenos said:

What I got from this post is that you’re using a lot of mental gymnastics to justify why you know more than a lawyer in general, as well as the lawyers on this forum. But obviously it’s all about the ability to debate, vs you know, having any actual legal knowledge 🙄

Last year I jokingly referred to you as a parrot because you stupidly used bullet points of Stafford’s past OCs to put him down as well as the Rams for the trade. I now take back what I said. A parrot at least would have more common sense and intelligence than to write what you just did.

parrot GIF

 

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4 hours ago, Scoundrel said:

Mayfield is going to win 8-9 games for the Panthers. 

Which sort of puts them in the same, annoying boat. For a team that hasn’t won that many games since 2017, if you’re a struggling FO like the one in Carolina, what do you do with Baker after that?

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15 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said:

Which sort of puts them in the same, annoying boat. For a team that hasn’t won that many games since 2017, if you’re a struggling FO like the one in Carolina, what do you do with Baker after that?

They decide Rhule’s future first

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On 7/8/2022 at 10:59 PM, SteelKing728 said:

Rosen played for the Falcons last season in relief of Matt Ryan.

Thanks, I hadn't even noticed. Though glancing at his statline, with 2/11 at 1.7ypa, two interceptions to 0 TDs and a passer rating of 0.00, I at least reckon the NFL will now be in relief of Josh Rosen moving forward. 😁

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On 7/8/2022 at 10:02 PM, Forge said:
Woof. 

Someone QT this tweet to talk about how when Baker was out for practice the week before GB, he didn't study the gameplan and spent 10 hours a night playing Halo   😂

No idea if any of that is true, but still hilarious

Kurt Benkert working his magic!  Best back-up QB ever!

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2 hours ago, candyman93 said:

Not sure if posted, but leaks about Baker loving Halo over football are coming out.

 

 

If we can assume that a quarantined Baker didn't study why can't we assume he slept 8 hours studied his game plan 6 hours and played video games 10 hours?

Oh that's right, because we just assume things when we have an agenda, nevermind.

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10 hours of gaming across a 3 day span really isn’t much at all…

That said, if he didn’t know the game plan well enough, then it’s still a bad allocation of time. Should’ve been hitting the film/books harder and let everything else take a back seat.

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