CWood21 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 1 hour ago, beekay414 said: I think it's funny that we've had 1st round RTs but not LT. Just absolutely backasswards of what you'd expect. I mean, I think the intention was for Sherrod to be our LT. I think he ended up at RT because he of Chad Clifton. 2011 was Clifton's last year, but Sherrod had that injury in 2011 and missed the entire 2012 season. IIRC, the 2012 season was the Marshall Newhouse debacle. And then in 2013, David Bakhtiari took the LT position and ran away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I mean, I think the intention was for Sherrod to be our LT. I think he ended up at RT because he of Chad Clifton. 2011 was Clifton's last year, but Sherrod had that injury in 2011 and missed the entire 2012 season. IIRC, the 2012 season was the Marshall Newhouse debacle. And then in 2013, David Bakhtiari took the LT position and ran away with it. I'm very aware of the circumstances that caused the 1st round RTs. Doesn't change what I said ha. I probably should phrased it as "I think it's funny that our 1st round tackles in recent memory ended up being RT for us only." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 7 hours ago, CWood21 said: I mean, I think the intention was for Sherrod to be our LT. I think he ended up at RT because he of Chad Clifton. 2011 was Clifton's last year, but Sherrod had that injury in 2011 and missed the entire 2012 season. IIRC, the 2012 season was the Marshall Newhouse debacle. And then in 2013, David Bakhtiari took the LT position and ran away with it. Marshall Newhouse started 13 games for GB in 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Paul Bretl - My first mock draft of the year, and although it’s only 2 rounds, it includes 4 picks for the Packers. Pick 15: Joey Porter Jr., CB, Penn State Measurements: 6’2″ | 193 pounds | RAS: 9.70 Stats to know: Porter has played 1,665 career snaps in college, with a majority coming lined up on the boundary. He’s been a very sound tackler throughout his career, and over the last three seasons, Porter has been targeted 116 times, allowing a completion rate of 59% with 10.3 yards per catch. He would also record an interception and 14 pass breakups, according to PFF ($$). Fit with Packers: Cornerback certainly isn’t the Packers’ biggest need, but with four picks in the top 50, I felt that I had some flexibility to focus on who the best player available was rather than solely on what is the biggest positional need. Adding Porter to the mix allows for the Packers to move Rasul Douglas to safety, something Brian Gutekunst discussed at the combine, and hopefully provides some stability to that position. That leaves Porter, Eric Stokes – who is still working his way back from injury – and Jaire Alexander to be rotated between the two boundary and slot cornerback positions, depending on the matchup. Pick 42: Jalin Hyatt, WR, Tennessee Measurements: 6’0″ | 178 pounds | RAS: 9.27 Stats to know: This past 2022 season was a breakout year for Hyatt. He would haul in 67 of his 89 targets at a whopping 18.9 yards per catch with 15 touchdowns. Hyatt was also one of the best at picking up YAC at the receiver positions, and he was targeted on average 14.1 yards downfield, the 15th-highest rate in college football last season. Most of his career snaps have come in the slot. Fit with Packers: From a weight standpoint, Hyatt doesn’t meet the Packers’ usual threshold of 200 pounds, but Justis Mosqueda of Acme Packing Co. would report from the combine that a year ago, Green Bay was interested in Chris Olave, who weighed 187 pounds, and that the team holds Hyatt in similar regard. Hyatt would provide some more playmaking for this offense – which is still needed even with Christian Watson – and do so from the slot, where the Packers are without a go-to option currently. Pick 43: Adetomiwa Adebawore, Edge, Northwestern Measurements: 6’1″ | 282 pounds | RAS: 9.87 Stats to know: Adebawore has 1,854 career snaps with the Wildcats, most of which have come in the traditional edge rusher role, but he’s also played over 600 from the interior. During the 2021 and 2022 seasons, he recorded a total of 61 pressures and 11 sacks. In 2022 specifically, Adebawore’s 22 run stops ranked 28th out of 200 eligible edge rushers. Fit with Packers: To put it simply, the Packers need more consistent pressure from the edge rusher position from those on the roster not named Rashan Gary. When Gary went down with his injury last season, Green Bay had issues generating regular pressure on the quarterback. Adebawore would immediately upgrade this edge rusher rotation, and his ability to play inside would also help the interior defensive line group, a position where, in terms of depth, the Packers are lacking. Pick 45: Luke Musgrave, TE, Oregon State Measurements: 6’5″ | 253 pounds | RAS: 9.75 Stats to know: It looked like 2022 was going to be a breakout season for Musgrave, who caught 11 of 15 passes at an impressive 15.4 yards per catch with a touchdown through two games before suffering a season-ending injury. In 2021, he hauled in 19 passes for 260 yards and a touchdown. He also has over 500 career snaps as a run-blocker in Oregon State’s zone-blocking offense, which is what Matt LaFleur utilizes. Fit with Packers: It’s worth noting that most rookie tight ends do not contribute significantly as rookies–it’s a difficult jump at tight end from college to the NFL. But with that said, Musgrave has the potential to bring playmaking in the passing game to this offense and the tight end position–something that was very much missing in 2022. Many of this past year’s NFL playoff teams had this element in their offense. Musgrave is also a willing blocker, which is very important when it comes to playing tight end for LaFleur. https://dairylandexpress.com/2023/03/24/packers-mock-draft-4-picks-top-50-aaron-rodgers-trade/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 43 minutes ago, Leader said: Paul Bretl - My first mock draft of the year, and although it’s only 2 rounds, it includes 4 picks for the Packers. Pick 15: Joey Porter Jr., CB, Penn State Measurements: 6’2″ | 193 pounds | RAS: 9.70 Stats to know: Porter has played 1,665 career snaps in college, with a majority coming lined up on the boundary. He’s been a very sound tackler throughout his career, and over the last three seasons, Porter has been targeted 116 times, allowing a completion rate of 59% with 10.3 yards per catch. He would also record an interception and 14 pass breakups, according to PFF ($$). Fit with Packers: Cornerback certainly isn’t the Packers’ biggest need, but with four picks in the top 50, I felt that I had some flexibility to focus on who the best player available was rather than solely on what is the biggest positional need. Adding Porter to the mix allows for the Packers to move Rasul Douglas to safety, something Brian Gutekunst discussed at the combine, and hopefully provides some stability to that position. That leaves Porter, Eric Stokes – who is still working his way back from injury – and Jaire Alexander to be rotated between the two boundary and slot cornerback positions, depending on the matchup. Pick 42: Jalin Hyatt, WR, Tennessee Measurements: 6’0″ | 178 pounds | RAS: 9.27 Stats to know: This past 2022 season was a breakout year for Hyatt. He would haul in 67 of his 89 targets at a whopping 18.9 yards per catch with 15 touchdowns. Hyatt was also one of the best at picking up YAC at the receiver positions, and he was targeted on average 14.1 yards downfield, the 15th-highest rate in college football last season. Most of his career snaps have come in the slot. Fit with Packers: From a weight standpoint, Hyatt doesn’t meet the Packers’ usual threshold of 200 pounds, but Justis Mosqueda of Acme Packing Co. would report from the combine that a year ago, Green Bay was interested in Chris Olave, who weighed 187 pounds, and that the team holds Hyatt in similar regard. Hyatt would provide some more playmaking for this offense – which is still needed even with Christian Watson – and do so from the slot, where the Packers are without a go-to option currently. Pick 43: Adetomiwa Adebawore, Edge, Northwestern Measurements: 6’1″ | 282 pounds | RAS: 9.87 Stats to know: Adebawore has 1,854 career snaps with the Wildcats, most of which have come in the traditional edge rusher role, but he’s also played over 600 from the interior. During the 2021 and 2022 seasons, he recorded a total of 61 pressures and 11 sacks. In 2022 specifically, Adebawore’s 22 run stops ranked 28th out of 200 eligible edge rushers. Fit with Packers: To put it simply, the Packers need more consistent pressure from the edge rusher position from those on the roster not named Rashan Gary. When Gary went down with his injury last season, Green Bay had issues generating regular pressure on the quarterback. Adebawore would immediately upgrade this edge rusher rotation, and his ability to play inside would also help the interior defensive line group, a position where, in terms of depth, the Packers are lacking. Pick 45: Luke Musgrave, TE, Oregon State Measurements: 6’5″ | 253 pounds | RAS: 9.75 Stats to know: It looked like 2022 was going to be a breakout season for Musgrave, who caught 11 of 15 passes at an impressive 15.4 yards per catch with a touchdown through two games before suffering a season-ending injury. In 2021, he hauled in 19 passes for 260 yards and a touchdown. He also has over 500 career snaps as a run-blocker in Oregon State’s zone-blocking offense, which is what Matt LaFleur utilizes. Fit with Packers: It’s worth noting that most rookie tight ends do not contribute significantly as rookies–it’s a difficult jump at tight end from college to the NFL. But with that said, Musgrave has the potential to bring playmaking in the passing game to this offense and the tight end position–something that was very much missing in 2022. Many of this past year’s NFL playoff teams had this element in their offense. Musgrave is also a willing blocker, which is very important when it comes to playing tight end for LaFleur. https://dairylandexpress.com/2023/03/24/packers-mock-draft-4-picks-top-50-aaron-rodgers-trade/ I'd take it. I've been thinking CB could be the "surprise position" this year that Gutey tends to love to draft. But my issue with a draft like this is that I think we should really have an offensive minded draft to refill the cupboards that have been emptied through free agency and set Love up to succeed. This one is a bit too defensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sandy said: I'd take it. I've been thinking CB could be the "surprise position" this year that Gutey tends to love to draft. GB drafting a CB #1 is a surprise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 No interest in Joey Porter Jr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, beekay414 said: No interest in Joey Porter Jr I like Joey Porter, but not for Green Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Leader said: GB drafting a CB #1 is a surprise? Just in the sense that it's not an obvious team need right now. Gute makes me say "wtf?" often on days one and two of the draft lol. But it usually works out pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I like Joey Porter, but not for Green Bay. I don't care for any of the 1st round corners in our range. I'd rather take one on day 3. Riley Moss or Mekhi Gardner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green19 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 I think the other “dark horse” for GB is Nolan Smith if he is there. LVN is more the model they have been going with… but if they change that model we can keep the Georgia Defense pipeline strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Green19 said: I think the other “dark horse” for GB is Nolan Smith if he is there. LVN is more the model they have been going with… but if they change that model we can keep the Georgia Defense pipeline strong. If they go twitch EDGE at 15, I think it's McDonald over Smith for GB. Edited March 25, 2023 by packfanfb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green19 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Just now, packfanfb said: If they twitch EGDE at 15, I think it's McDonald over Smith for GB. Do you feel McDonald is a top 15 player though? I feel if they want that… they could likely trade down a bit (at least I would hope). I just view with how Nolan tested and the interviews… he might be a top 10/12 guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 38 minutes ago, beekay414 said: I don't care for any of the 1st round corners in our range. I'd rather take one on day 3. Riley Moss or Mekhi Gardner. Christian Gonzalez is a stud. He's not quite that Sauce Gardner level, but he's easily in that next tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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