Old Guy Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Hope Love gives them a giant middle finger the next day, putting a massive egg on the face of the sackless trio. Absolutely, Love needs to come out and demand a trade if they allow Rodgers to come back and dictate how the organization is run for another year. I honestly can say, I don't know how much Packer football I will watch next year if Rodgers is back. I'm sick of this broken record. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 9 hours ago, Pugger said: Or was it Carr who wanted to leave? Evidently Carr wants to check all his options. Of course NY is waiting, like the rest of us, for Rodgers' decision. If a team REALLY wants a guy, they don't let him leave the facility. Money trumps everything. Jets said all the right things...but did not do the right things if they were All In on Carr. So, they are not. They will wait to see about Rodgers first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Absolutely, Love needs to come out and demand a trade if they allow Rodgers to come back and dictate how the organization is run for another year. I honestly can say, I don't know how much Packer football I will watch next year if Rodgers is back. I'm sick of this broken record. I've been on record backing Gute and LaFleur, but this is a fireable offense to me. You sacrificed our present for our future and are now sacrificing our future for the present. The 2021 was a SB caliber roster, imagine it with Patrick Queen, Tee Higgins, Michael Pittman or Antoine Winfield Jr, all favorites for our 2020 late 1st. Instead you chose to make a sensible long-term pick for the franchise. So now we're being sandwiched by the opportunity cost of their failures. Not only do we not get multiple pick compensation, we also took a premium pick away from two SB caliber teams and made them worse in essence. Gute is a good GM, LaFleur is a good HC, but good employees get fired every day for committing some act that's unforgivable. This is that act. I'm not even anti-Rodgers, I'll still watch him next year and hopefully he tears it up and goes out on a high note, but unless this year results in a championship all we've done is build for the future in years that we should've gone for it, and gone for it when it was time to look to the future. A direction less, rudderless organization right now that seems to be totally complacent just putting a competitive team together and watching the $$$ roll in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: I've been on record backing Gute and LaFleur, but this is a fireable offense to me. You sacrificed our present for our future and are now sacrificing our future for the present. The 2021 was a SB caliber roster, imagine it with Patrick Queen, Tee Higgins, Michael Pittman or Antoine Winfield Jr, all favorites for our 2020 late 1st. Instead you chose to make a sensible long-term pick for the franchise. So now we're being sandwiched by the opportunity cost of their failures. Not only do we not get multiple pick compensation, we also took a premium pick away from two SB caliber teams and made them worse in essence. Gute is a good GM, LaFleur is a good HC, but good employees get fired every day for committing some act that's unforgivable. This is that act. I'm not even anti-Rodgers, I'll still watch him next year and hopefully he tears it up and goes out on a high note, but unless this year results in a championship all we've done is build for the future in years that we should've gone for it, and gone for it when it was time to look to the future. A direction less, rudderless organization right now that seems to be totally complacent just putting a competitive team together and watching the $$$ roll in. This is where I've been for a while. They should all have extremely hot seats right now. It's been a botch job since the selection of Love, and you didn't even mention the failures involving the Davante Adams situation. It seems they have lacked direction for three seasons now. We'll see what they do with the Rodgers/Love situation. I suspect they will botch it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, BarnettOSU said: Looks like he is officially out of the darkness. I saw its reported he did 7 days instead of 4 that I think he said he was going to do. He totally did those extra days to spite anyone who made fun of the retreat lol. Edited February 23, 2023 by Arthur Penske Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: This is where I've been for a while. They should all have extremely hot seats right now. It's been a botch job since the selection of Love, and you didn't even mention the failures involving the Davante Adams situation. It seems they have lacked direction for three seasons now. We'll see what they do with the Rodgers/Love situation. I suspect they will botch it as well. Why don't you all wait to see how this plays out before declaring them on the hot seat and sackless? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: Why don't you all wait to see how this plays out before declaring them on the hot seat and sackless? But they have misplayed the past several years regardless with how this "plays out". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: This is where I've been for a while. They should all have extremely hot seats right now. It's been a botch job since the selection of Love, and you didn't even mention the failures involving the Davante Adams situation. It seems they have lacked direction for three seasons now. We'll see what they do with the Rodgers/Love situation. I suspect they will botch it as well. Adams I put on Rodgers, if he was committed to the organization after 2021, we would've given Adams a deal, his holdout caused us to delay that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLGURU Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: Why don't you all wait to see how this plays out before declaring them on the hot seat and sackless? Agree, this is going to require a ballsy move regardless of what they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: But they have misplayed the past several years regardless with how this "plays out". MLF and Gutey failed in the playoffs for a few years, but they probably won more games than nearly every other team over the period not including this year. I am as disspointed by the post season performance as everyone, but they're clearly not misplaying everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Adams I put on Rodgers, if he was committed to the organization after 2021, we would've given Adams a deal, his holdout caused us to delay that. Adams could ( not have or will) turn out to be a long-term blessing depending on how Watson/Quay etc work out. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: Adams could ( not have or will) turn out to be a long-term blessing depending on how Watson/Quay etc work out. We'll see. If the plan was to win last year, it was a mistake. If the plan was long-term, Rodgers would have been traded last year or the year before. You can't have it both ways, regardless of how Quay and Watson turn out. I'm extremely hopeful both will turn out to be fantastic players. Edited February 23, 2023 by Old Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15412 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 It is being reported Ol Rodg went in the dark Monday and came out Wednesday. This would not surprise me, he hasn’t been able to finish anything late in the game or season for over a decade now. It all goes back to giving the old man that bloated and stupid contract when they did. It was fine to bring him back then, but under reasonable team terms. Either Gute or Murph should have their head on a wall for that. Now is now. You can’t correct that, but you can begin to recover from it. You do that by moving him now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit Pack Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 What did Rodgers see while in the darkness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, {Family Ghost} said: This is where I've been for a while. They should all have extremely hot seats right now. It's been a botch job since the selection of Love, and you didn't even mention the failures involving the Davante Adams situation. It seems they have lacked direction for three seasons now. We'll see what they do with the Rodgers/Love situation. I suspect they will botch it as well. What failure involving Adams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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