Old Guy Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Watson is a beast, lol, he helped me win my fantasy league this year. I love Addison though, I think he's going to be a stud. Who do you guys want at #15? I want an EDGE rusher if there is one there worthy of pick 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: The Jets that haven't made the playoffs in over a decade and have burnt through highly drafted QBs because of how dysfunctional their team has been? Correct. The Jets had a top 5 defense. The Raiders had a bottom 2 defense this past year. Jets situation is obviously a better option if you think critically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, incognito_man said: Correct. The Jets had a top 5 defense. The Raiders had a bottom 2 defense this past year. Jets situation is obviously a better option if you think critically. I agree with that. We have better skill position players than the Jets though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Wasn't the future pick a conditional 2nd that became a 1st because of his playing time? The only thing that's an issue is the timing, we have to find a team that wants to commit to him a month before the league year begins. Then I think we'll focus all of our attention on Brady with Jimmy G as a potential fall back plan but if that doesn't work I could see us sending the farm for Rodgers. Do you think you guys would still be interested in Waller as a substitute for a draft pick? Yes. And I'd look at NFC teams who are probably not going to be in the Brady sweepstakes as the most obvious candidates for Carr. New Orleans and Tampa Bay seem like obvious fits, but they've got cap issues. And personally, I wouldn't be all that interested in Waller. This isn't Waller of 2 years ago with his diminished production, contract status, and recent injury history. He's more of a finishing product for a trade. I'd take him back, but I'm not substituting premium draft picks for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: All of those guys outproduced your weapons with a worse QB/coach/system, lol. Worse system and coach, you say? Gosh you're really proving my point. Rodgers must be over the moon to go to that!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Jets are wayyyy better They're my target team. They're on the cusp of serious contention in the AFCE....have a complete ****show at the QB position currently....the cap space and draft capital to make it happen. So lets do it.....like today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 5 minutes ago, incognito_man said: 2023 Raiders current weapons are not an upgrade over 2023 Green Bay weapons. Not sure what your point is. The whole discussion is around where Rodgers is going. In your projection of 2023 Packers weapons is A. Jones on that list? I could see them moving him if Rodgers is gone. I would still say for Rodgers the 2023 Raiders weapons are better for him. Simply because of the Adams connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, CWood21 said: Yes. And I'd look at NFC teams who are probably not going to be in the Brady sweepstakes as the most obvious candidates for Carr. New Orleans and Tampa Bay seem like obvious fits, but they've got cap issues. And personally, I wouldn't be all that interested in Waller. This isn't Waller of 2 years ago with his diminished production, contract status, and recent injury history. He's more of a finishing product for a trade. I'd take him back, but I'm not substituting premium draft picks for him. I think the Saints, Buccaneers, Panthers, Falcons, Commanders, Colts, and Jets all make sense for Carr. I also think that Stafford's success with the Rams boosts his stock. I feel you there, he has been a disappointment for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: Worse system and coach, you say? Gosh you're really proving my point. Rodgers must be over the moon to go to that!! Is there really any team that's going to provide a significantly better situation for him then what he has in Green Bay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, Old Guy said: Not sure what your point is. My point is that Rodgers is not going to have any interest in playing for the Raiders for a bunch of reasons and therefore it's a non-starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, NYRaider said: Is there really any team that's going to provide a significantly better situation for him then what he has in Green Bay? SF mayyyyybe the Jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: I think the Saints, Buccaneers, Panthers, Falcons, Commanders, Colts, and Jets all make sense for Carr. I also think that Stafford's success with the Rams boosts his stock. I feel you there, he has been a disappointment for sure. I really don'tsee the Falcons being in play. Colts seem positioned to go after one in the draft. Saints and Bucs are limited via FA and the draft because of their pick and cap situations. Panthers, Commanders, and Jets are in the no man's land with not high enough to draft a franchise QB without it costing a fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, incognito_man said: SF mayyyyybe the Jets But is San Francisco interested? I'm leaning towards no unless they believe they can recoup picks on Trey Lance, which seems unlikely at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Just now, incognito_man said: SF mayyyyybe the Jets So he's not going to have much interest in any team then? The Colts/Titans are both significantly worse situations with limited talent around him in the passing game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I think it's debatable between Rodgers and Brady. You must have been watching different games. Brady was horrible with no injuries .. Rodgers had a broken thumb with rookie wr's. Not saying Rodgers was all world but their overall play difference was evident. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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