SmittyBacall Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 What a terrible decision to kick there. What does 3 points do in this scenario? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Forge said: Carr trade value dropping by the game. what do you think his value was/is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity_Cometh Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, squire12 said: what do you think his value was/is? Colts retirement home will have a vacancy next year. I am sure the Raiders could extract a day 2 pick. Washington needs to do something as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderX Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 CARRBAGE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 JFC!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, squire12 said: what do you think his value was/is? I think if he continued to play at the level of his last few years, he would have returned a first. But he's been awful this year and the contract is all weighted toward the new team because it's all base salary. I think now he may be looking at something closer to the second Carson Wentz trade rather than the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Calamity_Cometh said: Colts retirement home will have a vacancy next year. I am sure the Raiders could extract a day 2 pick. Washington needs to do something as well. yeah, what would LV do for QB? $32.9M of Carr base salary become guaranteed on Feb 15, so cutting him is not an option and trading him puts a bigger guaranteed amount back into the mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackywabbit Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, squire12 said: what do you think his value was/is? Oof... I was going to say the Raiders signing him to a contract would have likely made him more valuable. Usually a team gives a healthy singing bonus to a QB and making his contract attractive as an asset, but the actual deal seems to reflect the ownership being relatively poor: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-raiders/derek-carr-14445/ This makes the draft capital they can expect not that great, since it's going to be like signing a FA. Edited December 25, 2022 by wackywabbit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderX Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 At this point I see why McDaniels wants to run the ball so much. Carr's accuracy is caca on short to medium throws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Forge said: I think if he continued to play at the level of his last few years, he would have returned a first. But he's been awful this year and the contract is all weighted toward the new team because it's all base salary. I think now he may be looking at something closer to the second Carson Wentz trade rather than the first. And here's the thing... Even with that type of value... Still have to rework the deal to some extent, I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity_Cometh Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 1 minute ago, squire12 said: yeah, what would LV do for QB? $32.9M of Carr base salary become guaranteed on Feb 15, so cutting him is not an option and trading him puts a bigger guaranteed amount back into the mix No idea but I hope they suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Forge said: I think if he continued to play at the level of his last few years, he would have returned a first. But he's been awful this year and the contract is all weighted toward the new team because it's all base salary. I think now he may be looking at something closer to the second Carson Wentz trade rather than the first. yeah, its a base that is guaranteed in mid February, so a new team would be on the hook for that $32.9M which is not a small price for a QB that you are wanting to get rid of 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, wackywabbit said: Oof... I was going to say the Raiders signing him to a contract have him more valuable. Usually a team gives a healthy singing bonus to a QB and making his contract attractive as an asset, but the actual deal seems to reflect there ownership being relatively poor: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-raiders/derek-carr-14445/ This makes the draft capital they can expect not that great, since it's going to be like singing a FA. He's the thing... They are on a clock. The salary guarantees in February. That means they have to find a trade relatively quickly and if not, have to decide on whether they just want to cut him to move on. That won't help value either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderX Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Fn Foster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted December 25, 2022 Share Posted December 25, 2022 Can’t wait till foster is gone. Get rid of the dumb players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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