ronjon1990 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, FloydFan said: That's my fear as well. In an ideal world we trade back a good bit, add a couple more picks in the top 125 and secure some decent starting talent to build with, but because we are Raiders fans I'm expecting a trade up, Richardson pick, and absolute failure. Praying it isn't the case. I'm usually not one to mock trades, but here's what I would do in an ideal scenario (that being the trade interest being real): 7 to Washington for 16, 47, 98, 2022 1st. 174, 204, 214, 220, and 231 to Detroit for 152 16 Bryan Breese, DT Clemson. DT is set. 38 Drew Sanders, LB Arkansas. 47 Deonte Banks, CB Maryland 70 Hendon Hooker, QB Tennessee 97 Carter Warren, OT Pittsburgh 100 Zach Kuntz, TE Old Dominion 109 DJ Johnson, Edge Oregon 141 Dorian Williams, LB Tulane 144 Will Mallory, TE Miami or Tyler Scott, WR Cincinnati or see below 152 Garrett Williams, CB Syracuse or Jay Ward, S LSU or see above Hit every single level of the D early with 3 likely day 1 starters. Follow up with a high upside QB and a decent OT to push guys and add depth, grab a physical freak TE, nab two potential future starters with the next two picks, pad depth at TE, WR, CB and S with the final 2. With a little luck, we get 6 day 1 starting caliber guys to build up on and a couple of primary backups for older guys that could round into starters in a year or two, or at least make the expensive vets a bit more expendable for cap space or future trades. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: I'm usually not one to mock trades, but here's what I would do in an ideal scenario (that being the trade interest being real): 7 to Washington for 16, 47, 98, 2022 1st. 174, 204, 214, 220, and 231 to Detroit for 152 16 Bryan Breese, DT Clemson. DT is set. 38 Drew Sanders, LB Arkansas. 47 Deonte Banks, CB Maryland 70 Hendon Hooker, QB Tennessee 97 Carter Warren, OT Pittsburgh 100 Zach Kuntz, TE Old Dominion 109 DJ Johnson, Edge Oregon 141 Dorian Williams, LB Tulane 144 Will Mallory, TE Miami or Tyler Scott, WR Cincinnati or see below 152 Garrett Williams, CB Syracuse or Jay Ward, S LSU or see above Hit every single level of the D early with 3 likely day 1 starters. Follow up with a high upside QB and a decent OT to push guys and add depth, grab a physical freak TE, nab two potential future starters with the next two picks, pad depth at TE, WR, CB and S with the final 2. With a little luck, we get 6 day 1 starting caliber guys to build up on and a couple of primary backups for older guys that could round into starters in a year or two, or at least make the expensive vets a bit more expendable for cap space or future trades. I would be over the moon with this draft. Would be the most competent draft this franchise has had since at least 2014 but probably before that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 51 minutes ago, Darbsk said: It just struck me why we’ve been quiet this FA period, we do have a ‘Superbowl QB’ and Jimmy G apparently ‘just wins’ so maybe we don’t actually need to bolster the roster as according to some wins are a QB stat and we have one of the best given his win/loss record. Therefore, what’s the point in buying talent when we don’t really need it? He’ll just win automatically won’t he? True Jimmy should elevate the roster regardless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 What’s happened to Sieg ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: I agree. Very disappointing free agency so far. The value and structure are good, but even the most staunch Ziegler supporter would be underwhelmed with this group. Unless literally no one wants to play here, this isn't good enough. Wondering if this is a legit concern myself. McDaniels doesn't have the best rep as a coach as is. The way they pushed Carr out plus Adams and Jacobs public displeasure coupled with stingy wallets, I could see alot of premium FAs not even considering us. Until proven otherwise, I'm of the belief that our locker room is in shambles with JMD at the helm 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 42 minutes ago, Dessie said: What’s happened to Sieg ?? He was on the FA list, so I guess we’re letting him walk. Tom McMahon bringing in his LS from Denver due to familiarity it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 59 minutes ago, Dessie said: What’s happened to Sieg ?? Technically he does play OL lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 hour ago, riceman80 said: Wondering if this is a legit concern myself. McDaniels doesn't have the best rep as a coach as is. The way they pushed Carr out plus Adams and Jacobs public displeasure coupled with stingy wallets, I could see alot of premium FAs not even considering us. Until proven otherwise, I'm of the belief that our locker room is in shambles with JMD at the helm It's obvious at this point. Ask yourself if you were a FA with multiple options, what on earth would make anyone want to sign with the Raiders? There are a few NFL "super agents" who represent approximately 75 percent of players and these guys know what is going on. They are telling their players to steer clear as any good agent would do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massraider Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Yeah, remember the way they pushed Carr out? Remember the way the Raiders teammates all got upset, and all sent out angry tweets about how that story about Carr not liking tough coaching was all bull****??? Yeah, I don't remember that either. Maybe people will realize that maybe Carr wasn't the most popular guy in Vegas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, massraider said: Yeah, remember the way they pushed Carr out? Remember the way the Raiders teammates all got upset, and all sent out angry tweets about how that story about Carr not liking tough coaching was all bull****??? Yeah, I don't remember that either. Maybe people will realize that maybe Carr wasn't the most popular guy in Vegas So we're just gonna act like we haven't been able to attract any marquee free agents across countless regimes but organizational instability hasnt been part of the equation? Even going all the way back to Al, we had to pay average guys retarded contracts to get them to come to Oakland. Mark hasnt done anything to stabilize the franchise so why wouldnt it be true now as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 59 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: It's obvious at this point. Ask yourself if you were a FA with multiple options, what on earth would make anyone want to sign with the Raiders? There are a few NFL "super agents" who represent approximately 75 percent of players and these guys know what is going on. They are telling their players to steer clear as any good agent would do. Lol all 32 teams money green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Frankie2Gunz said: It's obvious at this point. Ask yourself if you were a FA with multiple options, what on earth would make anyone want to sign with the Raiders? There are a few NFL "super agents" who represent approximately 75 percent of players and these guys know what is going on. They are telling their players to steer clear as any good agent would do. Super bowl coach, super bowl QB, top 10 OL (according to PFF), 2 All-Pro pass rushers, 1st team All-Pro RB/WR, world class facilities, no state income tax. Graded out as the 3rd best team on the NFLPA report card. Vegas is arguably the most appealing free agent destination in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 TE market is drying up fast. I'd go after Austin Hooper and/or Dan Arnold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 46 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Super bowl coach, super bowl QB, top 10 OL (according to PFF), 2 All-Pro pass rushers, 1st team All-Pro RB/WR, world class facilities, no state income tax. Graded out as the 3rd best team on the NFLPA report card. Vegas is arguably the most appealing free agent destination in the NFL. 1. Super Bowl coordinator. 2. Super Bowl QB's backup 3. Our O-line is extremely weak inside 4. A 33 year old former All-Pro with 16 sacks in the last 4 years 5. I'll give you the other 3. But our TEAM appears to be fractured on the surface and that is a major red flag. No one wants to sign a contract with an unstable franchise, same as a team doesn't wanna do business with players like Brown, Beckham, etc. No one sane willingly chooses foundational chaos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roninho Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 9 hours ago, ronjon1990 said: I'm usually not one to mock trades, but here's what I would do in an ideal scenario (that being the trade interest being real): 7 to Washington for 16, 47, 98, 2022 1st. What are the best scenarios to have strong interest in our #7 pick? All qb's drafted & a blue chip talent available or 1 or 2 qbs to drop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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