BetterCallSaul Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 20 hours ago, seminoles1 said: That is just unbelievably inaccurate. I think he's definitely a top 5 RB as far as speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 29 minutes ago, BetterCallSaul said: I think he's definitely a top 5 RB as far as speed. Top 5 starting RB maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 On 2/5/2023 at 3:49 PM, Yin-Yang said: I’d be with you 100%, but then why bring up 40s? Also would have to throw in: how often do we see most defenders really open up into a sprint? I think, in a race, there are some LBers that would challenge the fastest guys on their team, in this league. So game speed can be an incomplete measure. Exactly. This is why top speed or MPH or whatever can be misleading. It is dependent on opportunities. Chubb is awesome but there is no way he's top 5 in the NFL for speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 49 minutes ago, BetterCallSaul said: I think he's definitely a top 5 RB as far as speed. Chubb might not even be the fastest RB out of just this rookie class. Kenneth Walker, Breece Hall, Pierre Strong, and Isiah Pacheco would give him a run for his money, at minimum. White and Cook are right there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler735 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) No way Chubb is one of the top 5 fastest RB's in the NFL. Edited February 8, 2023 by tyler735 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterCallSaul Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 lol you guys are crazy. Chubb has elite home run speed. 1 hour ago, Yin-Yang said: Chubb might not even be the fastest RB out of just this rookie class. Kenneth Walker, Breece Hall, Pierre Strong, and Isiah Pacheco would give him a run for his money, at minimum. White and Cook are right there too. Are we talking 40 times in shorts? Or are we talking about running away from NFL defenses? Give me Chubb over all of those dudes as far as in-game speed. Walker is the only guy I think might be faster...but I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 24 minutes ago, BetterCallSaul said: lol you guys are crazy. Chubb has elite home run speed. Are we talking 40 times in shorts? Or are we talking about running away from NFL defenses? Give me Chubb over all of those dudes as far as in-game speed. Walker is the only guy I think might be faster...but I doubt it. I mean, part of using that is getting the opportunity to run away from defenses, lol. Pacheco and especially Strong haven’t really gotten quite the opportunity to display their speed, partly because they’re just not as good as a guy like Chubb. But yeah, no, they all have home run speed. Chubb puts it on display more because he’s better than those guys. In terms of pure speed, he’s not in his own stratosphere of even running backs. Add DBs, LBs, and WRs into this equation and top 5 is a massive, massive stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler735 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 32 minutes ago, BetterCallSaul said: lol you guys are crazy. Chubb has elite home run speed. Are we talking 40 times in shorts? Or are we talking about running away from NFL defenses? Give me Chubb over all of those dudes as far as in-game speed. Walker is the only guy I think might be faster...but I doubt it. Raheem Mostert blows Chubb out of the water in the speed department. Jonathan Taylor is faster in basically every metric out there to judge speed. In this upcoming draft class Devon Achane is undoubtedly faster than Chubb. As you already mentioned Walker is probably faster than Chubb. Earlier in his career Cordarrelle Patterson was definitely faster than Chubb. At this stage, he might not be anymore though. If we are talking about "limited role" players, Nyheim Hines is faster than Chubb. Matt Breida has a good argument as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 59 minutes ago, tyler735 said: Raheem Mostert blows Chubb out of the water in the speed department. Jonathan Taylor is faster in basically every metric out there to judge speed. In this upcoming draft class Devon Achane is undoubtedly faster than Chubb. As you already mentioned Walker is probably faster than Chubb. Earlier in his career Cordarrelle Patterson was definitely faster than Chubb. At this stage, he might not be anymore though. If we are talking about "limited role" players, Nyheim Hines is faster than Chubb. Matt Breida has a good argument as well. yeah, Speed isn't what I would consider Chubb's biggest asset at any point. Vision? sure. Balance? sure. Powerful leg drive? sure. But he was never really a 4.4 guy in pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterCallSaul Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, tyler735 said: Raheem Mostert blows Chubb out of the water in the speed department. Jonathan Taylor is faster in basically every metric out there to judge speed. In this upcoming draft class Devon Achane is undoubtedly faster than Chubb. As you already mentioned Walker is probably faster than Chubb. Earlier in his career Cordarrelle Patterson was definitely faster than Chubb. At this stage, he might not be anymore though. If we are talking about "limited role" players, Nyheim Hines is faster than Chubb. Matt Breida has a good argument as well. Mostert and Taylor yes. Walker maybe…splitting hairs. Achane is not in the NFL. Patterson no lol. Breida 4 years ago maybe. Is he even in the NFL? Hines yes. Mostert Taylor Hines Walker Chubb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterCallSaul Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 33 minutes ago, scar988 said: yeah, Speed isn't what I would consider Chubb's biggest asset at any point. Vision? sure. Balance? sure. Powerful leg drive? sure. But he was never really a 4.4 guy in pads. Speed isn’t his best attribute, which is scary. Because he had elite breakaway speed. I swear people don’t watch him play with these asinine opinions that he isn’t crazy fast. Whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 2 hours ago, tyler735 said: Raheem Mostert blows Chubb out of the water in the speed department. Jonathan Taylor is faster in basically every metric out there to judge speed. In this upcoming draft class Devon Achane is undoubtedly faster than Chubb. As you already mentioned Walker is probably faster than Chubb. Earlier in his career Cordarrelle Patterson was definitely faster than Chubb. At this stage, he might not be anymore though. If we are talking about "limited role" players, Nyheim Hines is faster than Chubb. Matt Breida has a good argument as well. Henry’s right there if the distance is enough to let him get up to speed. Rookies Strong/Hall/Pacheco. Cook. Etienne. Probably Pollard. Excluding all the fringe roster guys that barely/never play. Even then, I don’t think the fastest running backs compete with the fastest DBs/WRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler735 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: Henry’s right there if the distance is enough to let him get up to speed. Rookies Strong/Hall/Pacheco. Cook. Etienne. Probably Pollard. Excluding all the fringe roster guys that barely/never play. Even then, I don’t think the fastest running backs compete with the fastest DBs/WRs. Yeah in terms of just pure speed I’d say only Mostert has true “elite” speed at RB when factoring in all positions. Devon Achane will also join that elite tier this upcoming season. He has rare speed for a RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Chubb has breakaway speed. The technical stuff doesn't matter as he isn't a speed back. Chubb has great power and elite tackle breaking ability, the metrics don't matter because he isn't a power back. Chubb has great vision and balance, where he stacks up in those categories doesn't matter because they aren't his greatest attribute. What sets Chubb apart is the combination of everything. A lot of guys have breakaway speed. A lot of guys break tackles. A lot of guys bounce off defenders and choose the right lane. A lot of guys get back up to speed quickly. Not many do it all. Chubb hasn't had the opportunity to have been used as a receiver so that is his flaw, whether it is his fault or not. Nothing else is debatable. Best pure runner? probably. Breakaway speed? Yep. Great vision and elite balance? Uh huh. Elite at breaking tackles? Yup. Does he catch 40 balls per year? Nope. So any argument against Chubb from being top 3 in the NFL in any of his seasons (accumulated you can't make the argument without sounding stupid) is only that he hasn't had the numbers of some of the backs in a receiving role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 2 hours ago, BetterCallSaul said: Speed isn’t his best attribute, which is scary. Because he had elite breakaway speed. I swear people don’t watch him play with these asinine opinions that he isn’t crazy fast. Whatever. I never said he had bad speed. He was like a 4.50-4.55 guy. Which isn't bad at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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