Rrrrrrrams Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 4 hours ago, MWil23 said: IF somehow this scenario plays out, the memes are going to be absolutely glorious with my Ravens brethren, as are my petty dig up posts going back like 5 years. As a Browns fan, I no longer care about winning, I care about everyone else being as miserable as I am. the rams will get a third round comp pick for baker? come on ravens, do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 23 hours ago, Acgott said: If it’s not guaranteed it’s not a paycut. That’s all what matters I don’t think he’ll see a big loss. I’ll be shocked if he can only get 1 year. Teams need quarterbacks. His deal was 3 yr/121M, don’t think his APY will be as high but he’ll have significantly more GTD money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, NYRaider said: His deal was 3 yr/121M, don’t think his APY will be as high but he’ll have significantly more GTD money. It’s going to be extremely close if not more. He’s the top quarterback hitting free agency by a mile. Plenty of teams need quarterbacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Acgott said: It’s going to be extremely close if not more. He’s the top quarterback hitting free agency by a mile. Plenty of teams need quarterbacks. What teams can afford to give him a top 5 QB deal though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 On 2/14/2023 at 10:48 AM, NYRaider said: One of our beat writers said he declined the trade after they asked him to take a pay cut. Paycut or restructure?  And the problem was that Carr doesn't have any GTD money after the trade, which means the Saints would effectively be getting a year-by-year deal with Carr.  And even if they restructured his 2023 salary, they'd still save more money by releasing him after the 2023 season.  This feels partially about being petty to the Raiders' organization but also protecting his long-term interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 minute ago, CWood21 said: Paycut or restructure?  And the problem was that Carr doesn't have any GTD money after the trade, which means the Saints would effectively be getting a year-by-year deal with Carr.  And even if they restructured his 2023 salary, they'd still save more money by releasing him after the 2023 season.  This feels partially about being petty to the Raiders' organization but also protecting his long-term interests. They asked him to take a pay cut according to our beat guys. His brother literally just said in NFL network that he was open to helping facilitate a trade but things just didn’t work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: What teams can afford to give him a top 5 QB deal though? He's not sniffing the $45M+/year range, he's probably coming in that $33.5M/year-$38M/year range if I had to take a guess. Â But more importantly, I think it's also how the deal is structured. Â Use New Orleans for example, they're pretty much already pushed up against the cap, so they could structure it in a way where Y1 cap hit is pretty low, and then make it impossible to move on from him after a year. Â Not quite to the extent that Watson's contract was done, but in that vein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, NYRaider said: They asked him to take a pay cut according to our beat guys. His brother literally just said in NFL network that he was open to helping facilitate a trade but things just didn’t work out. If there's any truth to that, then the Raiders' FO is more inept than I thought they were.  It was gonna have to be done because through a restructure.  And I figured the Saints would need to further guarantee money on the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acgott Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, NYRaider said: What teams can afford to give him a top 5 QB deal though? Every team can. You can give him a $15M cap hap hit in 2023 with bigger hits in future years and void years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 minute ago, CWood21 said: If there's any truth to that, then the Raiders' FO is more inept than I thought they were.  It was gonna have to be done because through a restructure.  And I figured the Saints would need to further guarantee money on the deal. Our front office was the only one that gave out a big QB extension and were able to get out of it after a year with basically 0 dead money. The Feb 15 deadline and NTC killed our chance of trading him but I think those things had to be included for him to accept a 121M deal with 9M in GTD money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 When do teams do cap casualty cuts? Before FA starts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 What would it take for Lamar to land in Atlanta? 3 FRPs plus more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Raiders hosting the Super Bowl this year. Think Davis goes all in on Rodgers+? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck23790 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 6 hours ago, NYRaider said: What would it take for Lamar to land in Atlanta? 3 FRPs plus more? When they were trying for Watson last year there was talk of AJ Terrell being included. I'm just not sure the Falcons are in a position to give up the farm to bring in a QB who though is great on his day does struggle with injuries and the best part of his game isn't based around him getting the ball to the Falcons last two 1st round picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinerNation21 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 10 hours ago, General Tso said: When do teams do cap casualty cuts? Before FA starts? You have to be under the cap by 3:59 pm EST on March 15th. At 4pm EST on March 15th, the new league year starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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