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6 hours ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said:

So many in our fanbase share the belief that the root cause of our championship drought stems from Jerry not caring about winning.

That’s wild.

Clarifying this… he definitely cares, a lot. Now, is he incapable of guiding a consistently top notch franchise and doesn’t realize it? Probably.

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I mean this in all sincerity… Jerry’s biggest problem is that he’s incredibly shortsighted.  Jerry would rather have three straight 8-8 seasons than than 2 or 3 3-13 seasons.  I still go back to 2020 when Dak got hurt.  We weren’t good with Dak.  We were horrible without him.  We were going nowhere.  Several of us kept saying we needed to play Nooooch at QB.  We would have ended up with the #2 pick in the draft.  
 

just check this out…

 

No. 3: Miami → San Francisco (PD). Miami traded a first-round selection (3rd overall) to San Francisco in exchange for a first-round selection (12th overall), 2022first- and third-round selections, and a 2023 first-round selection.

 

just so everyone knows… Micah Parsons was the #12 pick in the first round.

 

Or

 

Philadelphia traded its first- and fifth-round selections (6th and 156th overall) to Miami in exchange for first- and fourth-round selections (12th and 123rd overall), and a 2022first-round selection.

 Philly was able to completely turn around its franchise 2 years after sucking by making multiple trade backs so they have multiple first round picks+ 3 years in a row.  They even turned one on them into an all pro WR.  
 

Instead, we played Dalton and won 4 more games.  Instead of 2 and 14 with trade options galore… we go 6-9 BECAUSE JERRY WANTED TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS when 7-9 won nfce.  What would we have done in the playoffs?  What was the purpose?  
 

I don’t know if it’s an ego thing… 90% of our fan base would have rather seen us go 2-14, miss the playoffs rather than go 7-9 and make the playoffs with Andy Dalton at QB.  

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10 hours ago, The_Slamman said:

I mean this in all sincerity… Jerry’s biggest problem is that he’s incredibly shortsighted.  Jerry would rather have three straight 8-8 seasons than than 2 or 3 3-13 seasons.  I still go back to 2020 when Dak got hurt.  We weren’t good with Dak.  We were horrible without him.  We were going nowhere.  Several of us kept saying we needed to play Nooooch at QB.  We would have ended up with the #2 pick in the draft.  
 

just check this out…

 

No. 3: Miami → San Francisco (PD). Miami traded a first-round selection (3rd overall) to San Francisco in exchange for a first-round selection (12th overall), 2022first- and third-round selections, and a 2023 first-round selection.

 

just so everyone knows… Micah Parsons was the #12 pick in the first round.

 

Or

 

Philadelphia traded its first- and fifth-round selections (6th and 156th overall) to Miami in exchange for first- and fourth-round selections (12th and 123rd overall), and a 2022first-round selection.

 Philly was able to completely turn around its franchise 2 years after sucking by making multiple trade backs so they have multiple first round picks+ 3 years in a row.  They even turned one on them into an all pro WR.  
 

Instead, we played Dalton and won 4 more games.  Instead of 2 and 14 with trade options galore… we go 6-9 BECAUSE JERRY WANTED TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS when 7-9 won nfce.  What would we have done in the playoffs?  What was the purpose?  
 

I don’t know if it’s an ego thing… 90% of our fan base would have rather seen us go 2-14, miss the playoffs rather than go 7-9 and make the playoffs with Andy Dalton at QB.  

Well, you are leaving out one really big variable.

The Iggles didn't suck for 2 years just to acquire multiple high draft picks.

They had a plan, a vision. Remember when they drafted Hurts?

EVERYONE was laughing. Iggles fans were losing their ish on social media. We got Lamb, they got Hurts. And man were they crying.

Well, turns out the Iggles FO saw the writing on the wall with Wence. Knew he was on his way out.

Hired Sirianni, let him pick his coaches, drafted the types of players need for his RPO offense, slowly implemented it last year, then got the missing pieces via FA, and here they are.

Our FO goes all in for splash value. Draft the big name, get accolades on social media and elsewhere, win your championship on paper, but when it comes time to actually play the games, there is no PLAN in place. Just a few really talented players that help this team win games, but no identity, no real system, no PLAN.

It's obvious. When just one of our stars get hurt, up until Rush this year, this team falls apart. Because there is no system. It relies solely on individual talent from a select few.

The real shame of it is, because of this approach, this franchise has wasted so many potentially great players opportunities at being champs.

So much so, that many had to leave to go to other teams to collect their trophies.

In short, JJ needs to retire or just die and have his family sell this team to an actual owner that wants to and is willing to do what is necessary to win a title.

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On 2/3/2023 at 11:56 AM, Nextyearfordaboyz said:

So many in our fanbase share the belief that the root cause of our championship drought stems from Jerry not caring about winning.

That’s wild.

The problem is twofold:

1. He cares far more about making money than winning.

2. He’s too incompetent to win.

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2 hours ago, plan9misfit said:

The problem is twofold:

1. He cares far more about making money than winning.

2. He’s too incompetent to win.

Hmm.  IMO it’s…..

1. He cares more about being the man then winning

This is the end all and why he hires who he does as coaches.   NO way he wants a coach to get all the credit.  Though Holmgren (some how I typed Mccarthy) is a slight step up for him and shows he might be feeling his age enough to even hire a Payton level coach

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The org’s got some big problems, certainly.

-Comfort in purgatory - (as laid out by @The_Slamman)

-Stephen Jones’s incompetence (far more than Jerry’s, who may be incompetent, but does not pull nearly as many bad strings)

-Refusal to stock up when championship opportunities present themselves

-Too willing to invest in ideas with very low  potential ROI, even in a best case outcome - (Zeke, Jaylon, Felix etc)

-Bad luck - avoiding a couple of major flukes away from significantly more playoff success in the past decade

Jerry caring too much about money is such a bizarre one to include on the list, much less be the #1 reason. 

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17 hours ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said:

Winning championships would be the biggest possible boom to his pocketbook.

Doubtful. He already has a stranglehold on the most valuable sports franchise in the world and makes money without having to spend any or win anything. As long as he makes money and the team remains “relevant”, then nothing will ever change, because people are still stupid enough to give that lying snake oil salesman their money.

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