El Ramster Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Julius Peppers, 159.5 sacks, 51 sacks and 11 INT. Myles Garret, 74.5 sacks, 13 FF and 0 INT Both athletic phenoms with JP being the bigger freak IMO. Dude was blocking FG like nothing. Him returning a Mick Vick fumble lives rent free in my head. Who are you taking and why. To me JP was a bigger force and the better player. Dude was just a freak.. Who’s better in your mind? Can Myles accend past the next level? Can he win a DPOY? He’ll be 28 next year! Top peak male performance years are up ahead.. Myles seems to have the ability and frame.. But he doesn’t seem to strike fear like other vaunted pass rushers… Who you got and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqOptic Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Julius Peppers and it's not even close. Myles needs to actually focus on maybe at least ONCE being the best pass rusher in the league for at least one season. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 hours ago, BlaqOptic said: Julius Peppers and it's not even close. Myles needs to actually focus on maybe at least ONCE being the best pass rusher in the league for at least one season. The follow up question to that has to be: when has Peppers been the best pass rusher in the league for a season? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Yin-Yang said: The follow up question to that has to be: when has Peppers been the best pass rusher in the league for a season? He was deff one of the best If not the best in his time in Car. The stuff he would do was nuts. Him and Jenkins were animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, El Ramster said: He was deff one of the best If not the best in his time in Car. The stuff he would do was nuts. Him and Jenkins were animals. No doubt, they were, and he was. But I think you can more or less say the same about Garrett right now: he’s one of the best pass rushers. Blaq said it’s Peppers and not even close, then followed up by saying Garrett should focus on being the best pass rusher for a single season. As high end as Peppers was, I don’t think there was a season where he was the best pass rusher either, like #1 in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Right now Garrett is barely beating out Peppers' per-game stats, and Garrett is in his prime and JP played 16(17?) years in the NFL. To me, that says it all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, BlaqOptic said: Julius Peppers and it's not even close. Myles needs to actually focus on maybe at least ONCE being the best pass rusher in the league for at least one season. Lets just say that if Myles Garrett wasnt the most double teamed and held rusher in the NFL every year, he would have 20+ sacks on multiple different occasions. Edited February 5, 2023 by AkronsWitness 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW21 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, AkronsWitness said: Lets just say that if Myles Garrett wasnt the most double teamed and held rusher in the NFL every year, he would have 20+ sacks on multiple different occasions. He wasn’t last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, AkronsWitness said: Lets just say that if Myles Garrett wasnt the most double teamed and held rusher in the NFL every year, he would have 20+ sacks on multiple different occasions. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 My initial reaction was Peppers for sure, but man if we're talking about who was better through 6 seasons (and I don't see any other way to compare, we don't know if Myles has even peaked yet) the #s are all Myles. Peppers was definitely more dominant and could effect the game in more ways, but Myles consistently is hard to deny. Through 1st 6 seasons: Myles Garrett Accolades: 2x 1st, 2x 2nd, 4x pro bowl 84/98 games (85.7%) Per Game stats: 3.13 tackles, .92 TFL, 0.89 sacks, 0.15 FFs, .15 deflections Playoffs: 2 games, 1 sack, 2 tackles Julius Peppers Accolades: DROY, 2x 1st, 3x pro bowl 90/96 games (93.4%) Per Game stats:3.25 tackles, .71 TFL, 0.62 sacks, 0.22 FFs, .38 deflections (in additiona to 4 INTs, and 2 return TDs) Playoffs: 7 games, INT, 2 sacks, 3 TFL, 3 tackles, 20 tackles, 4 PDs, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Not sure who was better. But dropping this in here because it is one of my favorite performances from a player (Peppers vs Minnesota 2009 on SNF) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0zZM3PUzyc&ab_channel=BearsSpotlight Pep was awesome, but questions about his work ethic did follow him his last few years here. But he came back and was awesome and we all forgave him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbertGOAT Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) I think we're misremembering Peppers a bit here, and admittedly I was too. We all view him as this freak pass rusher in the early 2000's who was just wrecking shop, and obviously he was very good, but the stats don't pop off the page like I expected. Granted, they threw a fair bit less back then, but still. Peppers also didn't seem to have a peak, per se. He was more or less the same guy from a production standpoint for his entire career, which is remarkably impressive for a pass rusher. Peppers is a Hall of Famer, but I think when you compare peaks, Garrett has him beat. and Garrett might not have reached his peak yet. Edited February 5, 2023 by HerbertGOAT 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterCallSaul Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 I was as big of a Julius Peppers fan as you'll ever find. Absolute freak of nature. He and Sean Taylor were my all-time favorite players. That said, Garrett is a better pass rusher. He's got way more tools and has a much freakier first step/bend. Peppers had some great years, but even I would have to say that he was always a tad overrated. He didn't wreck games all that often and his "prime" was very short. He was very good for a while, but Garrett has been in the elite category now for longer than Peppers was. Or, at least, should have been for those paying attention. I've got 3 Julius Peppers jerseys in my closet, but give me Garrett. It's also important to note that Peppers played on defense with other fantastic front 7 guys. Garrett has been playing with absolute trash in his front 7. I have no problem with those saying Peppers, but saying it's Peppers and it's not close? That's just idiotic and untrue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 I’ve always been a huge Peppers fan, he was criminally underrated. Myles is the better pure edge pass rusher, Julius the more well rounded player IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Who has pass rush plays per game numbers? That I would be interested in seeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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