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Is CB high on the list? I feel like it’s right there with pass rush for importance. You can never have enough good corners, and while our guys are young there’s no guarantee they’ll get better. I still have concerns about Josh Williams.

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On 4/5/2023 at 11:38 PM, Jakuvious said:

I mean, Williams is effectively the #4 right now, so I wouldn't call it a concern.

You're pretty much always going to draft at least one DB late just kind of off numbers, but there's really no reason to prioritize a CB right now.

So that means we’re gonna use him a good amount, and he’s the first man up in case of emergency. 

Also isn’t Sneed on the last year of his deal? From what I’ve seen, CBs kinda move around the league, and are hardly ever re-signed by their drafted team. Even since the days of Neon Deion, good corners travel. 

I saw on a PFF podcast that a Chiefs scout came up with some kind of algorithm for corners that got some notice. So maybe we continue to draft late rounders. I just wouldn’t be surprised by an early round pick either.

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5 hours ago, Chiefer said:

So that means we’re gonna use him a good amount, and he’s the first man up in case of emergency. 

Also isn’t Sneed on the last year of his deal? From what I’ve seen, CBs kinda move around the league, and are hardly ever re-signed by their drafted team. Even since the days of Neon Deion, good corners travel. 

I saw on a PFF podcast that a Chiefs scout came up with some kind of algorithm for corners that got some notice. So maybe we continue to draft late rounders. I just wouldn’t be surprised by an early round pick either.

Yep. That whole draft class except Clyde and Niang--Gay, Sneed, Danna, and Wharton. 

Here is the whole current list. Several are on one-year deals.

PLAYER (62)
POS.
AGE
EXP.
CONTRACT TERMS
AVG. SALARY
GUARANTEED
EXPIRES
ACQUIRED
Chris Jones DT 28 7 4 yr $80,000,000 $20,000,000 $60,000,000 2024 Drafted
Willie Gay Jr. ILB 25 3 4 yr $5,271,045 $1,317,761 $1,903,488 2024 Drafted
L'Jarius Sneed CB 26 3 4 yr $3,929,320 $982,330 $634,320 2024 Drafted
Michael Danna DE 25 3 4 yr $3,558,660 $889,665 $263,660 2024 Drafted
Mike Edwards S 26 4 1 yr $3,000,000 $3,000,000 $2,480,000 2024 Free Agent
Drue Tranquill LB 27 4 1 yr $3,000,000 $3,000,000 $2,450,000 2024 Free Agent
James Winchester LS 33 8 2 yr $2,750,000 $1,375,000 $465,000 2024 Free Agent
Tommy Townsend P 26 3 1 yr $2,627,000 $2,627,000 - 2024 Undrafted
Nick Allegretti G 26 4 1 yr $2,582,500 $2,582,500 $2,582,500 2024 Free Agent
Malik Herring DE 25 1 3 yr $2,450,000 $816,667 $125,000 2024 Undrafted
Tershawn Wharton DE 24 3 1 yr $2,025,000 $2,025,000 $850,000 2024 Undrafted
Prince Tega Wanogho T 25 2 1 yr $1,865,000 $1,865,000 $750,000 2024 From Prac. Squad (KC)
Deon Bush S 29 7 1 yr $1,317,500 $1,317,500 $350,000 2024 Free Agent
Derrick Nnadi DT 26 5 1 yr $1,232,500 $1,232,500 $1,092,500 2024 Free Agent
Blake Bell TE 31 8 1 yr $1,165,000 $1,165,000 - 2024 Free Agent
Byron Cowart DT 26 3 1 yr $1,080,000 $1,080,000 - 2024 Free Agent
Jody Fortson TE 27 2 1 yr $940,000 $940,000 - 2024 Reserve/Future
Phil Hoskins DT 26 2 1 yr $940,000 $940,000 - 2024 Free Agent
Shane Buechele QB 25 2 1 yr $940,000 $940,000 - 2024 From Prac. Squad (KC)
Nazeeh Johnson CB 24   1 yr $705,000 $705,000 - 2024 To Prac. Squad
Jack Cochrane LB 24   1 yr $705,000 $705,000 - 2024 From Prac. Squad (KC)
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Quentin Johnston is training with the guys in Texas. He's local to the area so it likely means nothing. But it does make me wonder if Pat is doing some scouting for Veach.

Other guys in attendance include WRs Moore, MVS, Smith-Marsette, Ross, Toney, and James along with TEs Kelce, Gray, Fortson, Bell, and Bushman.

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On 4/16/2023 at 7:35 PM, mayanfootball said:

Some outstanding CB's come in this draft. Some (like Darius Rush, Carrington Valentine, etc.) are available 3rd.rd. and later.

Now that we have two very good CB and two more than adequate backups.😬

I expect that we will pick one up and maybe a RB to go with a couple of WR and a TE or two. 

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1 hour ago, kingseanjohn said:

Other guys in attendance include WRs Moore, MVS, Smith-Marsette, Ross, Toney, and James along with TEs Kelce, Gray, Fortson, Bell, and Bushman.

I think these things just can’t be overlooked.  If you look at the chemistry our team came out with on offense vs say GB who’s QB couldn’t be bothered to come off his high to work with the new guys and it just says a lot. For the young guys every catch, every route is important.  For a guy like MVS who honestly undelivered in all but the AFC Championship game, it’s about building the momentum, working the hands.

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11 hours ago, EMAW_KSU said:

I think these things just can’t be overlooked.  If you look at the chemistry our team came out with on offense vs say GB who’s QB couldn’t be bothered to come off his high to work with the new guys and it just says a lot. For the young guys every catch, every route is important.  For a guy like MVS who honestly undelivered in all but the AFC Championship game, it’s about building the momentum, working the hands.

It's bigger than most are crediting.

We found Justin Watson during these informal sessions last year and had JuJu locked in when camp started. Likewise, Richie James and Justyn Ross get invaluable experience with Mahomes without having to fight the depth chart for it. As you say, MVS gets time to focus. Toney and Skyy will have expanded roles. 

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I wonder which one he likes more. I suspect we’re trading up in the first round. Total Veach move and add some drama in front of the home crowd

Would we do it for a WR for Pat? I like Zay Flowers, he’s like a mini Toney lol. 

 

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15 hours ago, Chiefer said:

I wonder which one he likes more. I suspect we’re trading up in the first round. Total Veach move and add some drama in front of the home crowd

Would we do it for a WR for Pat? I like Zay Flowers, he’s like a mini Toney lol. 

 

If Mahomes reports back positively enough about one of them, I could see it.

 

Though hopefully his scouting has improved since CEH.

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While I haven't put in my usual effort in scouting, I can't help but feel that this class is weak. I wouldn't be surprised to see us trade up more than down and potentially even use this years picks to acquire additional draft picks next year. I'm also doubting that we draft OL in rounds 1-3 barring a Tunsil draft night type situation. As more time goes on, I'm feeling more like Niang will be the other starting OT with Tega Wanogho being the primary backup.

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