TheKillerNacho Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Friend with the subscription sent me the updated numbers so I'm sending them to you. A disclaimer: I do not own a PFF subscription but my friend does and sent me this list to post it. PFF is obviously flawed, and in some cases downright laughable, I do not necessarily share their opinions on the top/worst players. Still, this should be interesting. Keep in mind their new player grade scale lists players via a 1-100 format. Also keep in mind that players who do not have a certain Snap % are not included (not sure what exactly the minimum snap count is... I think its like 25%). Quarterback Top 5: 1. Tom Brady 94.6 2. Matt Ryan 89.8 3. Ben Roethlisberger 86.6 4. Drew Brees 86.1 5. Carson Wentz 85.7 Bottom 5: 1. Brock Osweiler 47.0 2. Trevor Siemian 49.7 3. Matt Moore 53.8 4. Tom Savage 55.8 5. DeShone Kizer 62.6Halfback Top 5: 1. Devonta Freeman 90.2 2. Kareem Hunt 88.5 3. Alvin Kamara 87.7 4. Dion Lewis 86.9 5. Ezekiel Elliot 86.1 6. Todd Gurley 84.3 Bottom 5: 1a. Ameer Abdullah 41.6 1b. Samaje Perine 41.6 3. Thomas Rawls 41.9 4. Adrian Peterson 43.5 5a. Carlos Hyde 47.3 5b. Kenyan Drake 47.3Fullback Top 5: 1. Anthony Sherman 82.2 2a. James Develin 79.5 2b. Patrick Ricard 79.5 4. Patrick DiMarco 76.4 5. Jamize Olawale 74.6 Bottom 5: 1. Derrick Coleman 32.9 2. Tommy Bohanon 38.7 3a. Derek Watt 40.6 3b. Keith Smith 40.6 5. Jalston Fowler 41.3Wide receiver Top 5: 1. Antonio Brown 93.9 2. Julio Jones 93.3 3. DeAndre Hopkins 88.3 4. Keenan Allen 87.7 5. A.J. Green 87.1 Bottom 5: 1. Ricardo Louis 38.5 2. Breshad Perriman 38.6 3. Seth Roberts 40.0 4. Kamar Aiken 41.7 5a. Jordan Matthews 42.6 5b. Rashard Higgins 42.6Tight end Top 5: 1. Travis Kelce 87.6 2. Rob Gronkowski 87.3 3. Hunter Henry 85.1 4. Delanie Walker 84.1 5. Zach Ertz 80.3 Bottom 5: 1. Evan Engram 37.8 2. Demetrius Harris 39.9 3. O.J. Howard 40.0 4. Niles Paul 41.9 5. Troy Niklas 42.3Offensive Tackle Top 5: 1. David Bakhtiari 87.1 2a. Joe Thomas 86.4 2b. Jason Peters 86.4 4. Demar Dotson 85.0 5. Lane Johnson 84.3 Bottom 5: 1. Rees Odhiambo 27.5 2. Chaz Green 30.6 3. Breno Giacomini 35.1 4. Greg Robinson 36.6 5. Cam Robinson 37.5Offensive Guard Top 5: 1. David DeCastro 92.4 2. Zack Martin 88.6 3. Brandon Brooks 87.7 4. Brandon Scherff 87.5 5. Joel Bitonio 84.8 Bottom 5: 1. Jeremy Vujnovich 32.0 2. Xavier Su'a-Filo 34.0 3. Justin McCray 36.6 4. Mark Glowinski 34.8 5. Ethan Pocic 35.0Center Top 5: 1. Jason Kelce 89.9 2. Travis Frederick 88.7 3. Alex Mack 88.4 4. David Andrews 86.8 5. Rodney Hudson 80.7 Bottom 5: 1. Wesley Johnson 32.0 2. Spencer Pulley 38.5 3. Ryan Kelly 39.9 4. Travis Swanson 42.0 5. Daniel Kilgore 43.8Cornerback Top 5: 1. Casey Hayward 96.8 2. Patrick Robinson 92.9 3. Jalen Ramsey 92.8 4. Marshon Lattimore 92.7 5. A.J. Bouye 90.8 6. Jason McCourty 90.4 Bottom 5: 1. Phillip Gaines 33.3 2. Xavien Howard 34.3 3. Jeremy Lane 37.7 4. K'Waun Williams 39.4 5a. David Amerson 39.7 5b. Robert McClain 39.7Safety Top 5: 1. Harrison Smith 94.2 2. Adrian Amos 92.3 3. Kevin Byard 89.9 4. Glover Quin 89.1 5. Earl Thomas 88.6 Bottom 5: 1. Kenny Vaccaro 36.9 2. Daniel Sorsensen 39.7 3. Kentrell Brice 40.0 4. Josh Shaw 40.1 5. Nate Allen 40.2Linebacker Top 5: 1. Bobby Wagner 98.5 2. Lavonte David 95.1 3. Luke Kuechly 93.2 4. Telvin Smith 90.9 5. Reuben Foster 87.2 Bottom 5: 1. Hayes Pullard 31.9 2. Deone Bucannon 34.1 3. Jarrad Davis 34.9 4. Nick Vigil 35.1 5. Alec Ogletree 35.6"Defensive Interior" Top 5: 1. Aaron Donald 97.3 2. Geno Atkins 91.8 3a. Gerald McCoy 90.9 3b. Kawann Short 90.9 5. Damon Harrison 90.6 6. Ndamukong Suh 90.5 7. Fletcher Cox 90.1 Bottom 5: 1. Ziggy Hood 39.6 2. Brandon Mebane 39.7 3. Adolphus Washington 42.7 4. Tanzel Smart 42.8 5. Terrell McClain 43.7"Edge Defender" Top 5: 1. Cameron Jordan 93.4 2. Calais Campbell 92.5 3a. Von Miller 92.3 3b. Joey Bosa 92.3 5. Khalil Mack 91.2 6. Brandon Graham 91.1 7. Melvin Ingram 90.6 Bottom 5: 1. Ryan Russell 43.0 2. Connor Barwin 43.6 3. Cassius Marsh 43.7 4. Charles Johnson 45.3 5. Frank Zombo 45.9 Yes, I included slightly more than five for a few categories, but thought that you guys would be interested in seeing everyone rated > 90. Complain away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 PFF doesn't hate Pat Elflein anymore!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Texans have significant issues at OL and DB, but...what do I see? 22 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Brandon Brooks 87.7 22 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: A.J. Bouye 90.8 23 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Glover Quin 89.1 Yup. Three former Texans all performing at an incredible level at those positions of need. Great job, Rick Smith. Just great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 There are 10 fullbacks in the NFL? No Bengals in the bottom 5 of any of the 3 oline categories kind of invalidates this entire list for me. Maybe we just have the lowest composite score amongst all our linemen or something, because the oline is still terribad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted December 1, 2017 Author Share Posted December 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, THE DUKE said: There are 10 fullbacks in the NFL? No Bengals in the bottom 5 of any of the 3 oline categories kind of invalidates this entire list for me. Maybe we just have the lowest composite score amongst all our linemen or something, because the oline is still terribad. All the Bengals OL are ranked in the bottom half from what I saw; just none of them fell into the Bottom 5 individually. I think the highest was Boling who was in the 70s, the rest I think were in the 40s and 50s. Ogbuehi just barely missed the list as 6th worst, grade of 37.7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 19 minutes ago, EliteTexan80 said: Texans have significant issues at OL and DB, but...what do I see? Yup. Three former Texans all performing at an incredible level at those positions of need. Great job, Rick Smith. Just great. Redskins Say HI! Same issues here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 43 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Bottom 5:1. Ziggy Hood 39.6 2. Brandon Mebane 39.7 3. Adolphus Washington 42.7 4. Tanzel Smart 42.85. Terrell McClain 43.7 Not unexpected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 46 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Top 5: 1. David Bakhtiari 87.1 2a. Joe Thomas 86.4 2b. Jason Peters 86.4 4. Demar Dotson 85.0 5. Lane Johnson 84.3 Really surprised not to see Trent Williams in that mix. Probably one of the best OT's in the game today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 59 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: Bottom 5: 1. Evan Engram 37 I find this odd - I know he's looked pretty good in my limit views, making some tough grabs. I guess there's a blocking component for TE, which I'd surmise he'd fail at (he's basically a WR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, EliteTexan80 said: I find this odd - I know he's looked pretty good in my limit views, making some tough grabs. I guess there's a blocking component for TE, which I'd surmise he'd fail at (he's basically a WR). Dropped passes have hurt him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 17 minutes ago, mike23md said: 1 hour ago, TheKillerNacho said: Top 5: 1. David Bakhtiari 87.1 2a. Joe Thomas 86.4 2b. Jason Peters 86.4 4. Demar Dotson 85.0 5. Lane Johnson 84.3 Really surprised not to see Trent Williams in that mix. Probably one of the best OT's in the game today. He's been hurt pretty much all year. Needs (knee?) surgery but is delaying to finish the season out. Still playing at a high level, just not one of his best years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 minute ago, JBURGE25 said: Dropped passes have hurt him too. But to the point of being the worst TE via metrics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 minute ago, EliteTexan80 said: But to the point of being the worst TE via metrics? apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 Just now, JBURGE25 said: apparently ...and I have no rebuttal to this. You win this round...but I'll be back! *Shakes fist menacingly* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted December 1, 2017 Share Posted December 1, 2017 I don't think OJ Howard has been the third worst TE in the NFL up to this point. His blocking has been good and he's been getting more and more looks receiving. And it's all been good except for one drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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