51to54 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 46 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: Jahns mock: Roquan Smith Isaiah Oliver Uchenna Nwosu Alex Cappa Simmie Cobbs Leon Jacobs Jonah Trinnaman I'm somewhat warming to Smith (although I'd still rather have Davenport). He struggles off of blocks, but if Hicks and Goldman are great, he'll be fine. His sideline to sideline ability also can't be denied. Love the Oliver and Nwosu picks, and I also doubt they take Cobbs. He doesn't fit this offense at all IMO. In this scenario, BTW, I'm not sure who rushes the passer unless Nwosu is an early contributor. I think that Smith would be a good fit with the current Bears' defensive line that could keep blockers off of Smith. Not so much in a defense where he might be expected to regularly take on blockers. In a way, unless you have good depth of blocker eaters on your Dline, an injury to one of your big guys on the Dline also hurts Smith's game and turns out to be an injury and a half. I'm leaning more and more to Davenport given his current size and upside and pass rushing potential. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike84 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 As much as I’ve touted Smith, he really doesn’t fit what Pace has done in the first round through three drafts. Pace has taken projections over polished players. Guys like that would be Edmunds, Davenport, or Josh Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike84 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I feel like Davenport will be the pick because it’ll absolutely piss off like 95% of the fans. Nelson is probably the best Pace could do. The reaction would be 50/50. Half would hate him because he’s a guard and half would love the move because Bears fans are obsessed with Notre Dame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBearsFan Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 26 minutes ago, IronMike84 said: I feel like Davenport will be the pick because it’ll absolutely piss off like 95% of the fans. Nelson is probably the best Pace could do. The reaction would be 50/50. Half would hate him because he’s a guard and half would love the move because Bears fans are obsessed with Notre Dame. I’d be more open on Nelson if there weren’t several day 1 solid starters with pro bowl upside who might be there as late as 50 at the same position. There might be 1 Nelson in this draft, but there are a half dozen Cody Whitehairs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51to54 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 28 minutes ago, AZBearsFan said: I’d be more open on Nelson if there weren’t several day 1 solid starters with pro bowl upside who might be there as late as 50 at the same position. There might be 1 Nelson in this draft, but there are a half dozen Cody Whitehairs. I'll take one new Whitehair and one (potentially) elite pass rusher over one Nelson and one (potentially ) decent rusher until I have the problem of so many good pass rushers that two of them are playing OG. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB 1 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 hours ago, beardown3231 said: Trying to figure out what you're implying for. Are you saying that the Bears were a top 10 defense on luck? I could argue that Trevathan, Hicks, Goldman, Floyd, Jackson, Amos and Fuller is a top 10 defense on ability. I do agree though that they NEED another pass rusher. It'd help not only if that OLB was good but also if Bullard/RRH had a big year, because Hicks can't play another 100% of the snaps Most of guys are but Fuller needs to show he can repeat last season again. Trevathan is good but injury prone. As a sub Timu is a big downgrade from Christian Jones who went to Detroit. Amos still is not a big play maker. this defense is o.k. but lacks the pass rush options and one guy who intercepts passes from being a true top shelf defense. the problem is pass rushers are the hardest position to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymousGM Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 This defense, in its current state, lacks an identity. The offense has one with Trubisky at the helm which makes it easier to find the right pieces to the puzzle. I think we desperately need to find a leader/gamechanger on defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51to54 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, anonymousGM said: This defense, in its current state, lacks an identity. The offense has one with Trubisky at the helm which makes it easier to find the right pieces to the puzzle. I think we desperately need to find a leader/gamechanger on defense. I too have spoken of the identity issue with the defense if not the team. You need something to hang your hat on. Something your team can always 'go to' or something other teams HAVE to contend with before anything else. Helps a team to seize the initiative in games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColGerBear Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 10 hours ago, Sugashane said: They aren't, but neither are Barkley, Chubb, and Nelson. Well, one of the options is more like putting everything on red as a retirement plan and one is setting up a 401k (hyperbole of course) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Ive decided Davenport is my guy and i dont want to get cute with it and hope hes there in a trade back. Take him at 8 unless you get a real nice overpay. Of course i say this all acknowleging that i havent got any of my guys since Alshon, so it probably wont happen, but the more i watch of Davenport, the more I think hes going to be real special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 9 hours ago, anonymousGM said: This defense, in its current state, lacks an identity. The offense has one with Trubisky at the helm which makes it easier to find the right pieces to the puzzle. I think we desperately need to find a leader/gamechanger on defense. They are a top 10 unit. His name is Akiem Hicks and he might be on the top 5 3-4 lineman in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Linebackers make Fangio's defense go, or so it has been said. Remember Chris Borland? Went in round 3. Navarro Bowman? 3rd round pick. Patrick Willis went #11 overall, but I'm of the opinion Roquan Smith isn't in his league. I would understand the move, but I don't think I'd like it. Kwiatkoski played well last season despite what some fans have to say about him. Danny Trevathan as well, but he can't seem to stay healthy. The downside to those two? They both come out of contract after the 2019 season, so we need an infusion of talent. A team that has glaring holes at OG, OLB, ILB/DL/WR/CB depth can't really afford to take a 'Roquan Smith' at 8, can they? Which means if Nelson isn't there, that's the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Who's the pass-rusher with the highest upside? (via @troyadami) If we leave out NC State's Bradley Chubb, who I've said is the draft's best edge rusher, I have to go with Marcus Davenport. The 6-foot-6, 264-pound Texas-San Antonio product has size and athleticism that can't be taught. His 4.58 40-yard dash at the combine was the fastest of any defensive linemen. He could play as a defensive end in a 4-3 or as an outside linebacker in a 3-4. Davenport just needs a team to be patient with him and develop his pass-rushing moves. I've said for a while that Green Bay, which has veterans he could learn from, is a great fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 We are currently doing our work mock draft and it broke like this, Round 1 1[1] Cleveland Browns: QB Sam Darnold 1[2] NY Giants: RB Saquan Barkley 1[3] NY Jets [Ind]: QB Baker Mayfield 1[4] Cleveland Browns [Hou] [Mark]: DE Bradley Chubb 1[5] Buffalo Bills [Den]: QB Josh Allen 1[6] Indianapolis Colts [NYJ]: OG Quenton Nelson 1[7] Tampa Bay Buccaneers: S Derwin James I made a trade. Miami offered 1[11], 2[43] and 2nd 2019. I felt like I had to take it. I had offers from NE and AZ on the table as well for Rosen. 1[8] Miami Dolphins: QB Josh Rosen 1[9] SF: LB Trumaine Edmunds 1[10] Oak: LB Roquan Smith I am on the clock again, what should I do? Davenport or Ward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, WindyCity said: We are currently doing our work mock draft and it broke like this, Round 1 1[1] Cleveland Browns: QB Sam Darnold 1[2] NY Giants: RB Saquan Barkley 1[3] NY Jets [Ind]: QB Baker Mayfield 1[4] Cleveland Browns [Hou] [Mark]: DE Bradley Chubb 1[5] Buffalo Bills [Den]: QB Josh Allen 1[6] Indianapolis Colts [NYJ]: OG Quenton Nelson 1[7] Tampa Bay Buccaneers: S Derwin James I made a trade. Miami offered 1[11], 2[43] and 2nd 2019. I felt like I had to take it. I had offers from NE and AZ on the table as well for Rosen. 1[8] Miami Dolphins: QB Josh Rosen 1[9] SF: LB Trumaine Edmunds 1[10] Oak: LB Roquan Smith I am on the clock again, what should I do? Davenport or Ward? Davenport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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