Old Guy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 5 hours ago, incognito_man said: these are mutually exclusive (especially if you think lowly of Joe Barry) either he's actually good and other teams can identify this and will get paid, because there's now 31 other teams who can easily do this or he's actually bad and other teams identify that and don't offer him NFL is a pretty efficient market when it comes to FA in that the winner's curse is more prevalent than finding great value. If it is the case that he could be better under another scheme, multiple teams will know this and be interested and drive up his cost. 2 hours ago, Packerraymond said: Rasul Douglas? DeVondre Campbell? Rudy Ford was cut off the 53 from one of the worst teams in the NFL. That's just us and not the rest of the league examples. Think you're giving NFL execs too much credit. I'd be curious what each of you think Savage's market value will be on a per year average in free agency. I'm kind of in the let's keep him mode tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, Old Guy said: I'd be curious what each of you think Savage's market value will be on a per year average in free agency. I'm kind of in the let's keep him mode tbh. I just think someone will pay him. He's young, former first rounder, and made that splashy pick six against Dallas in a playoff games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 What about keeping Savage if he's cheap, drafting a safety and signing a sure fire starter with cap space? That way we can start Savage and the UFA and put the rookie on the field when we want to, not because we need to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, beekay414 said: What about keeping Savage if he's cheap, drafting a safety and signing a sure fire starter with cap space? That way we can start Savage and the UFA and put the rookie on the field when we want to, not because we need to. This! I want Jordan Whitehead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh_Mann Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, beekay414 said: What about keeping Savage if he's cheap, drafting a safety and signing a sure fire starter with cap space? That way we can start Savage and the UFA and put the rookie on the field when we want to, not because we need to. This is the Packer way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: I just think someone will pay him. He's young, former first rounder, and made that splashy pick six against Dallas in a playoff games. That is my whole point. What does that mean on an annual basis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 27 minutes ago, Old Guy said: I'd be curious what each of you think Savage's market value will be on a per year average in free agency. I'm kind of in the let's keep him mode tbh. I'd guess around $4.5-6.5/yr. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 29 minutes ago, beekay414 said: What about keeping Savage if he's cheap, drafting a safety and signing a sure fire starter with cap space? That way we can start Savage and the UFA and put the rookie on the field when we want to, not because we need to. Gonna come down to the new DC and staff and their "self scout" of Savage and the rest of the roster. May opt to bring back Rudy Ford instead and spend the difference on another FA upgrade over Savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fussnputz Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Gonna come down to the new DC and staff and their "self scout" of Savage and the rest of the roster. May opt to bring back Rudy Ford instead and spend the difference on another FA upgrade over Savage. Upgrading Owens is more important than upgrading Savage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCalebR Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 34 minutes ago, Old Guy said: This! I want Jordan Whitehead. I just don't see him escaping but that'd be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighCalebR Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, Mr. Fussnputz said: Upgrading Owens is more important than upgrading Savage. If you bring back AJj or Ford, job done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 28 minutes ago, incognito_man said: I'd guess around $4.5-6.5/yr. Based on this year it puts him at between 26-32. NFL Salary Rankings | Spotrac I have no idea, but I always think our players are going to get more than they do. Except for Lazard and MVS, never saw those deals coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 14 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Based on this year it puts him at between 26-32. NFL Salary Rankings | Spotrac I have no idea, but I always think our players are going to get more than they do. Except for Lazard and MVS, never saw those deals coming. That seems about right to me. He's underplaying his natural ability so teams might be cautious to give him more than a 2 year deal, too. And/or he might feel like he wasn't used properly and will want a 1yr prove it deal at a place/with a DC that will play to his strengths more. I really don't have a good gauge at all for what he'll get because of his athletic ability paired with his production in a Joe Barry defense. Lot of variables at play here and I don't really know how to judge Savage. He seems like a bottom tier guy too often and rarely jumps off the screen. He's only very very rarely appeared to have a real knack for the game or have superb situational awareness. And I'm a guy whose favorite trait in a safety is their football IQ and situational awareness. So I'm not a big Savage guy. But then again, my read could be spoiled by the defensive scheme he played in. I don't have confidence in my opinion on Savage one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 51 minutes ago, incognito_man said: I'd guess around $4.5-6.5/yr. I'll guess it to be a lot more than that, but hell I dunno? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, incognito_man said: That seems about right to me. He's underplaying his natural ability so teams might be cautious to give him more than a 2 year deal, too. And/or he might feel like he wasn't used properly and will want a 1yr prove it deal at a place/with a DC that will play to his strengths more. I really don't have a good gauge at all for what he'll get because of his athletic ability paired with his production in a Joe Barry defense. Lot of variables at play here and I don't really know how to judge Savage. He seems like a bottom tier guy too often and rarely jumps off the screen. He's only very very rarely appeared to have a real knack for the game or have superb situational awareness. And I'm a guy whose favorite trait in a safety is their football IQ and situational awareness. So I'm not a big Savage guy. But then again, my read could be spoiled by the defensive scheme he played in. I don't have confidence in my opinion on Savage one way or another. He's a bad tackler and that has nothing to do with scheme. On the flip side, it looked like the light really came on for him in the playoffs as far as being a center fielder type of safety. I want him back and want to sign Jordan Whitehead, then draft a guy in round 2-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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