ChaRisMa Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 42 minutes ago, Tperk said: I'm not a huge draft guru, but there are only about 4-5 safeties in this class that I see being decent NFL players. Nubin, Bullard, Hicks, Tykee Smith, and maybe Mustapha. Obviously DeJean is another, but I still would consider him as a CB for now. Hicks I can say I have a strong opinion on. I don’t think he is the least bit rare of a player. Good hitter. Liability in coverage. Great pursuit as a team first defender. I don’t see value in drafting him. I want the coverage. Give me the coverage. Having heavily checked out this and last years classes extensively and I wholeheartedly agree the Safety population is dwindling. They just don’t get challenged through the air enough to sort them out for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I don't think Tykee Smith is a safety in the NFL. He's a nickel all day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 May end up meaning absolutely nothing, but this is already the second or third time I've seen the Packers listed among a few other teams as showing interest in a couple of DL from the Shrine/Senior bowl weeks. Khristian Boyd specifically mentioned the Packers as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Happy Combine Day. For those interested in tracking RAS scores for prospects over the next 4 days, follow this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 For me the combine is really not at all important to fans. For teams, the important part is the medical and interviews. Np players should rise based on the combine, but maybe some should fall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 17 minutes ago, spilltray said: For me the combine is really not at all important to fans. For teams, the important part is the medical and interviews. Np players should rise based on the combine, but maybe some should fall. While I doubt players move that much on team boards post-combine, as far as we (fans) are concerned players WILL fall and rise on draft boards on the mock draft sites we like to visit, but that is more down to the media getting a better handle on how the teams view players, than the combine itself. From the physical tests point of view it is more of a testing to confirm what is already on tape. It might be more important event for players who have missed substantial parts of the last season. I will be looking specifically at the combine 3 cone times of DBs, as the Packers seem to think this stat is important for those players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 22 minutes ago, OneTwoSixFive said: While I doubt players move that much on team boards post-combine, as far as we (fans) are concerned players WILL fall and rise on draft boards on the mock draft sites we like to visit, but that is more down to the media getting a better handle on how the teams view players, than the combine itself. From the physical tests point of view it is more of a testing to confirm what is already on tape. It might be more important event for players who have missed substantial parts of the last season. I will be looking specifically at the combine 3 cone times of DBs, as the Packers seem to think this stat is important for those players. The problem i have is none of the "draft guru's" admit they arent actually doing any evaluation. All they are doing is trying to get a feel of what teams think and go from there. The desire to create a story leads for them to hype combine stars, and bad organizations are swayed by this too. The entire way the sports media ecosystem works, with the analysts and commentators who are really just "personalities" posing as "experts" makes more worse than it does better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 (edited) 1 hour ago, spilltray said: For me the combine is really not at all important to fans. For teams, the important part is the medical and interviews. Np players should rise based on the combine, but maybe some should fall. I couldn't disagree more. Team management has shown that athletic testing is a huge part of their selection process. For us as fans, this helps us narrow down the players they're likely to be considering. There's such a funnelling of talent from college to the pros that athletic testing genuinely can tell you if someone is an NFL athlete or not, and the combine is really the only easy way for us fans to get this info in one spot. Edited February 29 by Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Max Melton, a Rutgers CB who is seen as a likely 3rd round pick, is the brother of the Packers Bo Melton. Payton Wilson, a NC State LB who is a likely 2nd round pick is the brother of the Brewers Bryse Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lodestar Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 39 minutes ago, spilltray said: The problem i have is none of the "draft guru's" admit they arent actually doing any evaluation. All they are doing is trying to get a feel of what teams think and go from there. The desire to create a story leads for them to hype combine stars, and bad organizations are swayed by this too. The entire way the sports media ecosystem works, with the analysts and commentators who are really just "personalities" posing as "experts" makes more worse than it does better. It’s 2024 my dude, there is lots of great coverage if you look past the ESPNs of the world. Dane Brugler and the Athletic crew are great, for example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 3 minutes ago, Sandy said: I couldn't disagree more. Team management has shown that athletic testing is a huge part of their selection process. For us as fans, this helps us narrow down the players they're likely to be considering. There's such a funnelling of talent from college to the pros that athletic testing genuinely can tell you if someone is an NFL athlete or not, and the combine is really the only easy way for us fans to get this info in one spot. This! It is also not the end all be all though. Kyle Hamilton from Notre Dame/Baltimore is an example. He tested poorly but he's just a football player. I'm very interested in Kool-Aid McKinstry. I don't see elite athlete when I watch him play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isherwood Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Fellas….we’re here. We get some measurements today 🤤 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Our first official weigh in from the Combine: And it's a big one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 11 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Our first official weigh in from the Combine: And it's a big one. Things you don't see in the same statement. Good news, he still weights 366 pounds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, Old Guy said: This! It is also not the end all be all though. Kyle Hamilton from Notre Dame/Baltimore is an example. He tested poorly but he's just a football player. I'm very interested in Kool-Aid McKinstry. I don't see elite athlete when I watch him play. Same for Kool-Aid, and my concern is that when he gets beat by his man he gets grabby. Some DB coach is gonna have a hell of a time breaking that habit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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