AlexGreen#20 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Initial costs to switch over and then upkeep and maintenance. Dome stadiums would probably need some sort of lighting and irrigation system in place. I'm sure it will be super cheap to make NFL stadiums into grow houses. At Miller Park they start in March. They roll out massive sod rolls. They then get a special tractor in place to pull all the seams together and pin it in place. They heat the place to like 80 degrees, they water it constantly and the swap out the regular lights for grow lights. They do this for a month. Then at the end of the season they tear it all out Every couple of years they'll have to turn over the soil. And every week they'll have to mow the damn thing. Even if it is a break even or slightly net profit position . . . Who wants to do all that work? God forbid you've got a concert or a hockey game or some ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, incognito_man said: I don't agree with this for reasons I've stated. I think plenty of owners want this as well. And for this reason, I think it would be really bad faith negotiating on the part of the owners to extract...something else from it. Why would it be in bad faith? A contract was signed. ****, we're talking about this like every owner even owns the stadium. For several of them this would probably require a lease amendment with the ******* or jurisdiction who actually owns the building. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: I'm sure it will be super cheap to make NFL stadiums into grow houses. At Miller Park they start in March. They roll out massive sod rolls. They then get a special tractor in place to pull all the seams together and pin it in place. They heat the place to like 80 degrees, they water it constantly and the swap out the regular lights for grow lights. They do this for a month. Then at the end of the season they tear it all out Every couple of years they'll have to turn over the soil. And every week they'll have to mow the damn thing. Even if it is a break even or slightly net profit position . . . Who wants to do all that work? God forbid you've got a concert or a hockey game or some ****. I guarantee you if 3-4 of the Jets young stars and Rodgers walked into Woody's office and said, we want to play on grass next year. He's going to push to make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Yeah the Bears field sucks, still have to invest in quality and the Bears do not. You guys act like this is easy. It's not. Turf rolls don't root immediately. As much as we **** on Soldier Field, Lambeau still trims their grass real short in the winter which makes it slick so it's not completely ****ed by the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 I hate that we pound the Bears, on their home field, and the most active thread is one concerning our traded and now injured QB....and now the surface that the game is played on. We need more cowbell. More WE TROUNCED DAH BEARS COWBELL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Just now, Packerraymond said: I guarantee you if 3-4 of the Jets young stars and Rodgers walked into Woody's office and said, we want to play on grass next year. He's going to push to make it happen. So . . . Why aren't they doing this? The solution here is, and always has been, to convince the owners individually to make this change because it's in the owners' interests. And then when you've got it to 26ish fields with grass, push to codify it in the CBA. So the owners agree to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Why would it be in bad faith? A contract was signed. ****, we're talking about this like every owner even owns the stadium. For several of them this would probably require a lease amendment with the ******* or jurisdiction who actually owns the building. Because if it's something they actually want, pretending they don't is bad faith? This is obvious, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 31 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Because if it's something they actually want, pretending they don't is bad faith? This is obvious, right? Why? If you can extract more value out of a contract, you would be stupid not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 1 hour ago, AlexGreen#20 said: ****, we're talking about this like every owner even owns the stadium. For several of them this would probably require a lease amendment with the ******* or jurisdiction who actually owns the building. Info on teams and what their rental cost/structure is https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/raiders-nfl/stadium-and-rent-details-for-all-32-nfl-teams/ list of stadiums/teams and playing surface + other variables https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_National_Football_League_stadiums#:~:text=Although the NFL has 32,Angeles Chargers share SoFi Stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 RB Dobbins just suffered an achilles injury.....on natural grass. It happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 35 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Why? If you can extract more value out of a contract, you would be stupid not to. Maybe in 100 level negotiating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 1 hour ago, vegas492 said: I hate that we pound the Bears, on their home field, and the most active thread is one concerning our traded and now injured QB....and now the surface that the game is played on. We need more cowbell. More WE TROUNCED DAH BEARS COWBELL. We need an artificial turf vs. natural grass thread to the rest of us can talk about Rodgers' comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Old Guy said: We need an artificial turf vs. natural grass thread to the rest of us can talk about Rodgers' comeback. Who wants to talk about Rodger's comeback? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Just now, Leader said: Who wants to talk about Rodger's comeback? People who come into the Stalking Rodgers thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLGURU Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 1 hour ago, AlexGreen#20 said: You guys act like this is easy. It's not. Turf rolls don't root immediately. As much as we **** on Soldier Field, Lambeau still trims their grass real short in the winter which makes it slick so it's not completely ****ed by the end of the season. Chicago doesn't put the attention to their field as they should. I think it's ran by the Chicago Park and Rec or some s*** like that. If enough people ***** they'll fix it, but it's normally only a temporary fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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