HerbertGOAT Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Who are some of the greatest players not in the HOF, and probably should be? Some of mine are: Jim Marshall: The all-time leader in Approximate Value for eligible players not enshrined, Marshall's amazing career was overshadowed by one buffoonish mistake. Ken Anderson: Joe Montana before Joe Montana, he was absurdly accurate against the teeth of the vicious 1970's NFL defenses. Led the league in Comp% 3 times, Yards twice, Passer Rating 4 times, and won an MVP. Forever marred by not winning a Ring on teams that were lucky to make the playoffs. Jeff Saturday: The Sergeant to Peyton's General, Saturday was arguably the best Center of the 2000's. HC career not withstanding. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Player A - 256 games, AV 138, 23 INT, 39 sacks, 1384 solo tackles, 19 FF, 12 FR, 96, PDs, Super Bowl Champ, 4x Pro Bowl, 2x All Pro Player B - 182 games, AV 152, 22 INT, 41.5 sacks, 1046 solo tackles, 11 FF, 16 FR, 8x Pro Bowls, 5x All Pro, 1 DPoY, Hall of Famer Player C - 184 games, AV 148, 17 INT, 20.5 sacks, 1107 solo tackles, 16 FF, 8 FR, 48 PDs, 7x Pro Bowl, 7x All Pro, Hall of Famer Player D - 224 games, AV 192, 25 INT, 13.5 sacks, 1300 solo tackles, 24 FF, 4 FR, Super Bowl Champ, 11x Pro Bowls, 9x All-Pros, 1 DPoY, Hall of Famer Player E - 268 games, AV 195, 18 INT, 56.5 sacks, 1077 solo tackles, 11 FF, 18 FR, 12x Pro Bowler, 9x All-Pro, 1 UPI DPoY Player A is London Fletcher, Player B is Brian Urlacher, Player C is Zack Thomas, Player D is Derrick Brooks, Player E is Junior Seau Hall of Very Good? Probably. The man was underappreciated his whole career though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkeyDoke21 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 For the first part of your question, I would say Darren Sharper. Not sure he really falls into the second portion though. He has the on field resume that just gets thrown out before consideration, due to his own actions. Snub isn't the word I'd use for him though, just mentioning him from a caliber of playing career perspective. I could see Antonio Brown getting a similar treatment, down the road. Saturday will eventually get in. I think he is getting a little of the Jerry Kramer treatment from so many of his teammates getting in. Saturday should go in before Reggie Wayne though, imo, but both could be hurting the others cause with Peyton, Edge and Marvin in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbertGOAT Posted June 5, 2023 Author Share Posted June 5, 2023 4 hours ago, MikeT14 said: Player A - 256 games, AV 138, 23 INT, 39 sacks, 1384 solo tackles, 19 FF, 12 FR, 96, PDs, Super Bowl Champ, 4x Pro Bowl, 2x All Pro Player B - 182 games, AV 152, 22 INT, 41.5 sacks, 1046 solo tackles, 11 FF, 16 FR, 8x Pro Bowls, 5x All Pro, 1 DPoY, Hall of Famer Player C - 184 games, AV 148, 17 INT, 20.5 sacks, 1107 solo tackles, 16 FF, 8 FR, 48 PDs, 7x Pro Bowl, 7x All Pro, Hall of Famer Player D - 224 games, AV 192, 25 INT, 13.5 sacks, 1300 solo tackles, 24 FF, 4 FR, Super Bowl Champ, 11x Pro Bowls, 9x All-Pros, 1 DPoY, Hall of Famer Player E - 268 games, AV 195, 18 INT, 56.5 sacks, 1077 solo tackles, 11 FF, 18 FR, 12x Pro Bowler, 9x All-Pro, 1 UPI DPoY Player A is London Fletcher, Player B is Brian Urlacher, Player C is Zack Thomas, Player D is Derrick Brooks, Player E is Junior Seau Hall of Very Good? Probably. The man was underappreciated his whole career though. London Fletcher should make the HOF purely off the fact that he was the only Washington FA signing in like a 10-year span that didn't suck. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 minute ago, HerbertGOAT said: London Fletcher should make the HOF purely off the fact that he was the only Washington FA signing in like a 10-year span that didn't suck. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I will forever believe Tommy Nobis is a top 5 talent at MLB and he did enough his 5 healthy years to get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) He is not a snub anymore but the one that really bothered me up to 2018 was Jerry Kramer. Dude was probably playing the most important blocker of one of the most iconic plays in NFL history. Lombardi also called him the best player he has ever coached. Glad he got in before he passed it was well overdue. Not to mention he had one of the most badass early NFL injury returns in history. Dude was literally impaled through his stomach on a piece of wood and showed up for practice two weeks later. Edited June 5, 2023 by Spartacus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 17 minutes ago, mse326 said: I will forever believe Tommy Nobis is a top 5 talent at MLB and he did enough his 5 healthy years to get in. That is a really good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Patrick Willis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelersfan43 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Sterling Sharpe maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterCallSaul Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Scott Player & Kaluka Maiava. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 15 hours ago, HerbertGOAT said: Who are some of the greatest players not in the HOF, and probably should be? Some of mine are: Jim Marshall: The all-time leader in Approximate Value for eligible players not enshrined, Marshall's amazing career was overshadowed by one buffoonish mistake. Ken Anderson: Joe Montana before Joe Montana, he was absurdly accurate against the teeth of the vicious 1970's NFL defenses. Led the league in Comp% 3 times, Yards twice, Passer Rating 4 times, and won an MVP. Forever marred by not winning a Ring on teams that were lucky to make the playoffs. Jeff Saturday: The Sergeant to Peyton's General, Saturday was arguably the best Center of the 2000's. HC career not withstanding. good call.. the man was amazing and he would have played for on of the more popular teams in the day, he would have been in a long time ago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbertGOAT Posted June 6, 2023 Author Share Posted June 6, 2023 3 hours ago, BetterCallSaul said: Scott Player & Kaluka Maiava. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Randy Gradishar IMO. He had over 2,000 tackles and made like 7 Pro Bowls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterCallSaul Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 6 hours ago, HerbertGOAT said: Why? Maiva would have EASILY been the GOAT if it weren’t from injuries. I still think he’s in the conversation even despite the short career. Scott Player is the toughest player in NFL history. Look at that mustache and tell me you are denying his bid to the HOF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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