StatKing Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 13 hours ago, malak1 said: Apparently passing stats aren't the only things his peers take into account when assessing him as a player. They certainly didn't take wins or turnovers into account. Most QBs on the worst team in the league are looking for another team next year, not getting praised. I don't see how anyone can think he's a franchise QB when he was a large reason why they lost so many games last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Tso Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Superduperman said: People aren't going to give Amon-Ra anything till he goes out there and catches 140 balls i'm going to go out on a limb and say he's on this list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 9 hours ago, Forge said: For the niners, I will assume that they get 6-7 players on here. Deebo (top 75?) CMC (top 50) Bosa (top 10) Trent (top 15) Fred Warner (top 30) Kittle (top 75?) Hargrave I would have thought between 80-100, so I'm going to assume not on the list. I should have quoted this earlier today when I saw it and said I think Hufanga is on it… and sure enough he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 13 hours ago, Forge said: Hargrave I would have thought between 80-100, so I'm going to assume not on the list. He should be on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Would have liked to seen the following Bengals make it: Joe Burrow (top 10) Ja’marr Chase (top 25) DJ Reader (top 80) Trey Hendrickson (top 80) Tee Higgins (top 100 - though there’s a ton of great WRs currently, not surprised if off) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 7 hours ago, StatKing said: They certainly didn't take wins or turnovers into account. Most QBs on the worst team in the league are looking for another team next year, not getting praised. I don't see how anyone can think he's a franchise QB when he was a large reason why they lost so many games last year. Take it up with his peers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Who votes on this, the players? Fields just has more friends than Lawrence. Obvious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Fields also has more Instagram followers than Lawrence, somehow. There’s a Venn diagram somewhere where social media clout = more nfl top 100 votes 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 Today's group: 70. Joey Bosa, DE, Chargers 69. Matt Milano, LB, Bills 68. Zack Martin, G, Cowboys 67. Amon-Ra St. Brown, WR, Lions 66. Jared Goff, QB, Lions 65. Darius Slay, CB, Eagles 64. Aaron Jones, RB, Packers 63. Grady Jarrett, DT, Falcons 62. Bobby Wagner, LB, Seahawks 61. Deebo Samuel, WR, 49ers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatKing Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 6 hours ago, malak1 said: Take it up with his peers. You mean the same people that voted Tyler Huntley to the pro bowl last year? Yea, no thanks. When their analysis is as deep as " he's fast and I don't like chasing him around" maybe that should be taken with a grain of salt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, StatKing said: You mean the same people that voted Tyler Huntley to the pro bowl last year? Yea, no thanks. When their analysis is as deep as " he's fast and I don't like chasing him around" maybe that should be taken with a grain of salt. Take it however you want, I don’t really care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 7 hours ago, malak1 said: Take it up with his peers. That’s a bold assumption thinking they’re putting much thought into this. 2 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said: Who votes on this, the players? Fields just has more friends than Lawrence. Obvious. Not saying this is THE truth, but Fields is part of the Quincy Avery QB club. Those guys are pretty close knit… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, malak1 said: 43 minutes ago, StatKing said: You mean the same people that voted Tyler Huntley to the pro bowl last year? Yea, no thanks. When their analysis is as deep as " he's fast and I don't like chasing him around" maybe that should be taken with a grain of salt. Take it however you want, I don’t really care. Bluntly - you do care, because you’re on an island defending this one. Yes or No: Justin Fields is better than Trevor Lawrence. Just a Y or N will suffice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malak1 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, ET80 said: Bluntly - you do care, because you’re on an island defending this one. Yes or No: Justin Fields is better than Trevor Lawrence. Just a Y or N will suffice. No. Not based on any evidence that I've seen so far. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Just now, malak1 said: No. Not based on any evidence that I've seen so far. Not that it’s worth anything, but I sincerely respect your honesty here. I think most of us are perplexed by the vote turning out the way it did, and while we can all sort of hand wave it away with “it’s the players vote” I think most of us understand the sport well enough to where we’re all going to question it - which is what I’m doing. I’m like anyone else, I think this list is cool - but I don’t think there’s much science behind it, it’s the epitome of a popularity contest. Maybe a few players do some deeper dives into it, but for all intents and purposes - I think the general population in NFL General could put together a better list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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