Bonanza23 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 22 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Yeah, he “worked so hard to get back on the field”. Dude is a charlatan. Carr played with a sprained AC Joint. At least he talked to the media 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Bonanza23 said: At least he talked to the media 😉 You’d have thought by him saying “I’ve worked my *** off to get back onto the field the last 2-3 years!” as though he was rehabbing from an injury. Dude’s clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 “Don’t you dare question my love for the game and take my word for it!!!” says serial liar, manipulator, and guy who quit on one team already as separate medical reports fly in direct conflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger murdock Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Winners of Watson Trade Texans Watson Falcons Panthers Saints Losers of Watson Trade Browns Baker Mayfield Browns fans Other players looking for fully guarantied deals 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 2 hours ago, roger murdock said: Winners of Watson Trade Texans Watson Falcons Panthers Saints Losers of Watson Trade Browns Baker Mayfield Browns fans Other players looking for fully guarantied deals Mayfield has the tampa bay in the playoffs at a 8.5 salary so Tampa is a winner. Another loser the nfc south because they have 2 teams in the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger murdock Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, mtmmike said: Mayfield has the tampa bay in the playoffs at a 8.5 salary so Tampa is a winner. Another loser the nfc south because they have 2 teams in the playoffs Baker got screwed and we traded him to a horrible situation and hes on a deal well below his level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Just now, roger murdock said: Baker got screwed and we traded him to a horrible situation and hes on a deal well below his level. Are you ok. The biggest thing is let's say tampa bay signs Mayfield again Then draft Emeka egbuka Tyler nubin s Minnesota Then trade up Marcellus dial turn him into a fs from the get go. This probably yields the top defense in the nfc plus a top 5 receiving core With a qb way below average salary. Ok below 32 Mayfield haters come up and rip me apart I have plenty of time to sit here in debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 2 hours ago, roger murdock said: Baker got screwed and we traded him to a horrible situation and hes on a deal well below his level. I mean, Baker is a below average starter in the league. He is who he is 6 years into his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 2 hours ago, MWil23 said: I mean, Baker is a below average starter in the league. He is who he is 6 years into his career. This year he is currently 15th. That said, he is above guys he won't be, in all likelihood, at the end of the year like Burrow, Hurts and Stafford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 6 hours ago, roger murdock said: Baker got screwed and we traded him to a horrible situation and hes on a deal well below his level. He's in a good situation now and he still trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger murdock Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 6 hours ago, MWil23 said: I mean, Baker is a below average starter in the league. He is who he is 6 years into his career. Baker has been dealt the worst starting hand in the history of the NFL Pre Baker: 1-31 Year 1 and 2: Hue Jackson -> Freddie Kitchens - two of the worst head coaches in NFL history Year 3: Good year under Stefanski Year 4: Injured all season Year 5: Dealt late camp to a truly awful team Year 6: On a team with no OL that Tom Brady stunk on last year and playing pretty well His circumstances in years 2, 4, and 5 were ridiculous. Hes had 8 offensive coordinators in 6 years which is an NFL record. He joined the worst team in NFL history. He was drafted by the worst professional sports organization in the Big 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 5 hours ago, roger murdock said: Baker has been dealt the worst starting hand in the history of the NFL Pre Baker: 1-31 Year 1 and 2: Hue Jackson -> Freddie Kitchens - two of the worst head coaches in NFL history Year 3: Good year under Stefanski Year 4: Injured all season Year 5: Dealt late camp to a truly awful team Year 6: On a team with no OL that Tom Brady stunk on last year and playing pretty well His circumstances in years 2, 4, and 5 were ridiculous. Hes had 8 offensive coordinators in 6 years which is an NFL record. He joined the worst team in NFL history. He was drafted by the worst professional sports organization in the Big 4. I’m aware of all this. It doesn’t change who he is, which is a guy who wasn’t good enough to contend for a championship. It’s that simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 (edited) …..if it really gets worse I could see us doing a Brock Osweiller / Houston scenario where we dump Watsons contract + draft picks to get rid of his money. There will always be teams with money that are rebuilding. Berry would undoubtedly have to have been fired by that point. Edited October 28, 2023 by candyman93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 45 minutes ago, candyman93 said: …..if it really gets worse I could see us doing a Brock Osweiller / Houston scenario where we dump Watsons contract + draft picks to get rid of his money. There will always be teams with money that are rebuilding. Berry would undoubtedly have to have been fired by that point. Problem is, the guaranteed salary. A team can't trade for him and get out of the guaranteed $138 million over the next 3 years. It would help if he would play and play well but then we wouldn't trade him. There is almost no way to move on from him until his final year. We'd have to give up a lot for a team to take him if he is struggling, multiple 1sts. That isn't going to look good for anyone in the organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 4 hours ago, MWil23 said: I’m aware of all this. It doesn’t change who he is, which is a guy who wasn’t good enough to contend for a championship. It’s that simple. He isn't a guy who looks good no matter what the circumstances are around him, which means he isn't an all time great which is what the hope was. He can certainly be a serviceable starter in the league and I think we'd be doing great right now with him (doing okay with PJ) but he isn't the golden child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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