vike daddy Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 14 minutes ago, wcblack34 said: But over the last year and a half, they have done nothing but overcome adversity. let Kwesi cook. let O'Connell coach. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 a lunatic. I love it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Remember when this defense didn't have enough talent during preseason? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, JDBrocks said: Remember when this defense didn't have enough talent during preseason? They were bad in September. Took them a month to figure it out but glad they stuck with the aggressive mentality. It’s paying off now. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 3 hours ago, JDBrocks said: Remember when this defense didn't have enough talent during preseason? They've definitely exceeded expectations. Still could use more talent though. I hope Hunter and Flores stick around and we see what they both can do with an infusion of talent. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 minute ago, wcblack34 said: They've definitely exceeded expectations. Still could use more talent though. I hope Hunter and Flores stick around and we see what they both can do with an infusion of talent. They can always get more talented. I just remember someone saying that this defensive roster was worse than the one Flores had in his first year in Miami. I think recency bias with Donatell was influencing perception quite a bit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Brian Flores has had a strong first season as defensive coordinator, with the Vikings 13th in the NFL in yards allowed per game and 10th in yards allowed per play. They're also 12th in rushing yards allowed per game and fifth in rushing yards allowed per play. These are by far their best rankings since 2018. Edge rusher Marcus Davenport, Minnesota's most important free agent signing, has missed the majority of the season because of injuries to both ankles. What's more, Flores has been without outside linebackers coach Mike Smith since training camp and defensive line coach Chris Rumph for the last three games, as both are on personal leave. https://www.kare11.com/article/sports/nfl/vikings/vikings-stay-afloat-behind-oconnells-steady-coaching/89-517af30c-c447-4cd5-bcda-a24930ee6969?fbclid=IwAR0KOzE7BhSnOivxN96BkN896OaxCnUmHMDANGopD7pL6BR3s-7lnDarI9Y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolmonite26 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 On 11/8/2023 at 4:31 PM, JDBrocks said: They can always get more talented. I just remember someone saying that this defensive roster was worse than the one Flores had in his first year in Miami. I think recency bias with Donatell was influencing perception quite a bit. Questioning the talent, even now, is still warranted. The massive leaps forward from Bynum and Metellus wasn't foreseeable, nor was the total resurgence of Hunter and Hicks And still the corners and lineman are really really suspect. So yes, there is more here to work with then we thought but this group is absolutely punching above their weight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Dolmonite26 said: Questioning the talent, even now, is still warranted. The massive leaps forward from Bynum and Metellus wasn't foreseeable, nor was the total resurgence of Hunter and Hicks And still the corners and lineman are really really suspect. So yes, there is more here to work with then we thought but this group is absolutely punching above their weight. Perhaps some leaps forward, but also not miscasting players to fit a scheme is super important. Hicks, Metellus, Bynum, and even Harrison Smith are doing the things that they are good at. I don’t think they suddenly got better, I think they were being asked to do things that weren’t maximizing their talents. Be great at something, not ok or worse at everything. Edited November 10, 2023 by JDBrocks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Didn't realize that this is all happening down two position coaches; please don't go B-Flo! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, RpMc said: Didn't realize that this is all happening down two position coaches; please don't go B-Flo! I knew about the Mike Smith thing, because Pettine has been helping out the assistant (Albury, I believe) all season long thus far. I'm not sure I knew that Rumph was still gone. I know I didn't know that Ben Ellefson is now a member of the coaching staff...I thought he was still playing TE somewhere. Ha! Edited November 10, 2023 by swede700 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 3 hours ago, RpMc said: Didn't realize that this is all happening down two position coaches... If only there was a Viking centric website you could go to for rapid updates of relevant news... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 6 hours ago, RpMc said: Didn't realize that this is all happening down two position coaches; please don't go B-Flo! They should have brought a formar player back to be an assistant d-line coach. Who would be the best? Allen would be fun, but isn't Udeze coaching somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, vikesfan89 said: They should have brought a formar player back to be an assistant d-line coach. Who would be the best? Allen would be fun, but isn't Udeze coaching somewhere? Udeze was with the Titans as their assistant DL coach. He's with the Houston Cougars as a pass rush specialist coach now. Edited November 11, 2023 by SteelKing728 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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