big_palooka Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: According to Hondo Ziegler didn't want Jimmy, JMD did. My GM Read this as well. Said it was a terrible idea to sign him. Mark must have decided him signing off on it was worth losing his job I guess. He also said there were 10 instances where they didn't see eye to eye. More to come. Ziegler didn't have many wins, but certainly odd to see a GM fired midseason. Stop hiring yes men for your coaches I guess. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 2 hours ago, NYRaider said: It's insane that we're going to pay DZ/JMD $85M combined over the next few years for what they did... Yes, it is. Aren't we still paying Gruden too? Both totally insane from a business prospective! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Frankie2Gunz said: Yes, it is. Aren't we still paying Gruden too? Both totally insane from a business prospective! Yeah I think we still owed him like 50M, Mayock probably like 20M, so in total 100-150M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: Yes, it is. Aren't we still paying Gruden too? Both totally insane from a business prospective! Gruden was settled behind closed doors. Not paying him any longer is what I've gathered. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Gruden was settled behind closed doors. Not paying him any longer is what I've gathered. Regardless paying the last two HC/GM's 150M for the absolute **** product they produced over the last 5 seasons is a sure fire way for Davis to be forced to sell equity in the team if this trend continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 17 hours ago, Frankie2Gunz said: I'm sure JM is at home counting the millions he just fleeced from Lloyd Christmas which makes me sick on multiple levels.... Just fact we paid that fool millions to put up such an embarrassing brand of football is sickening. Al wouldn’t have paid him, he’d have dusted off the old overhead projector……….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 44 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Read this as well. Said it was a terrible idea to sign him. Mark must have decided him signing off on it was worth losing his job I guess. He also said there were 10 instances where they didn't see eye to eye. More to come. Ziegler didn't have many wins, but certainly odd to see a GM fired midseason. Stop hiring yes men for your coaches I guess. I always quite liked Dave Ziegler, seemed the more based and sensible of the two. He made mistakes for sure but apparently disagreed on a number of things and that was one. I think he could make a pretty decent GM for someone in time if he can distance himself from McDaniels. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 59 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Yeah I think we still owed him like 50M, Mayock probably like 20M, so in total 100-150M They can totally lose that in one year if the team kept on sucking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 3 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: Meh on Pat mcaffe he said he was mad that it even made it out the building 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich7sena Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 3 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: The Patriots comment probably didn’t happen with players around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 That Patriots comments came out of something from Seinfeld or Curb your Enthusiasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 https://x.com/_MLFootball/status/1722093489939271723?s=20 Mcdaniels traded Peyton Hillis because he suspected his wife was attracted to him Mcdaniels also told the Broncos team after trading Jay Cutler that he could turn a HS QB into a NFL All-Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydFan Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 hour ago, bucksavage1 said: https://x.com/_MLFootball/status/1722093489939271723?s=20 Mcdaniels traded Peyton Hillis because he suspected his wife was attracted to him Mcdaniels also told the Broncos team after trading Jay Cutler that he could turn a HS QB into a NFL All-Pro JMD having one of the worst weeks of press for an individual ever lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 10 hours ago, bucksavage1 said: https://x.com/_MLFootball/status/1722093489939271723?s=20 Mcdaniels traded Peyton Hillis because he suspected his wife was attracted to him Mcdaniels also told the Broncos team after trading Jay Cutler that he could turn a HS QB into a NFL All-Pro Obviously the reverse is true too, as he turned Jimmy Garoppolo from an NFL QB into a high school QB. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roninho Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 On 11/8/2023 at 12:44 AM, Darbsk said: I always quite liked Dave Ziegler, seemed the more based and sensible of the two. He made mistakes for sure but apparently disagreed on a number of things and that was one. I think he could make a pretty decent GM for someone in time if he can distance himself from McDaniels. I don't give a c**p about him being more based and sensible of the two. The guy either was responsible for all these stupid moves, or he willingly accepted to be a yes-man to McDaniels. Guys like that are useless and the reason why the Raiders have been a sh*tshow for years. As for his future, he has made his money but both scenario's basically will ensure that he will never get a shot as a GM again imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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