Mr Bad Example Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 hours ago, MacReady said: The Chargers are a team so much better than their record. The Packers are a team so much worse than their record. All analysis of the relative merits of the two teams is undercut by the fact that both of them can f up a wet dream 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 2 hours ago, MacReady said: If a team beat 16 third string quarterbacks on teams below 500 and lost to a second string quarterback while scoring 20 points a game and giving up 19 points a game, would you bet on them to win it all? Of course not. I'm not sure what this has to do with my post above... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Pugger said: Of course not. I'm not sure what this has to do with my post above... Teams are not what their records say they are. Last year’s Vikings, the 2011 Packers… Our team is not better than the Chargers, and it’s not close. The Chargers have elite (defined by top 10 at their position, top 20 if it’s CB/S/WR) players at almost every level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatKing Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 59 minutes ago, Mr Bad Example said: All analysis of the relative merits of the two teams is undercut by the fact that both of them can f up a wet dream The Chargers can actually beat teams who have their starting QB. We haven't won a game against a teams starting QB since week 1 and it's not like we've had a gauntlet of a schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 hour ago, StatKing said: The Chargers can actually beat teams who have their starting QB. We haven't won a game against a teams starting QB since week 1 and it's not like we've had a gauntlet of a schedule. The Chargers can also be a dark horse SB pick who is sitting here at 4-5, with their HC one of the most common names on the chopping block. The Chargers are not some great team. They can't defend anything if they don't get home with Bosa and Mack and they'll soon realize what missing Palmer and Williams will do for the coverages Allen gets. Roster-wise right now, this is about as even as you can get. I'd pick the Chargers because Staley isn't quite as bad as Barry, but it should be a 34-28 type game. If it's not, one of the pass rushes consistently got home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 Anyone else notice that we pay guys big money and then they suddenly are hurt a lot... lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Anyone else notice that we pay guys big money and then they suddenly are hurt a lot... lol Probably ran into Alex McGough. Guy's a brick ****house 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 4 hours ago, MacReady said: Teams are not what their records say they are. Our team is not better than the Chargers So teams are what their record says? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted November 17, 2023 Author Share Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) Can anyone spell b-r-e-a-k-o-u-t? Edited November 17, 2023 by Leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugger Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 4 hours ago, MacReady said: Teams are not what their records say they are. Last year’s Vikings, the 2011 Packers… Our team is not better than the Chargers, and it’s not close. The Chargers have elite (defined by top 10 at their position, top 20 if it’s CB/S/WR) players at almost every level. You'll get no argument from me about the Chargers being better than us. But there is a reason they have only one more win than we do. They haven't played all that great at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrILL! Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, Leader said: Can anyone spell b-r-e-a-k-o-u-t? Can MLF take the training wheels off before the 4Q? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebpackfan Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 7 hours ago, MacReady said: If a team beat 16 third string quarterbacks on teams below 500 and lost to a second string quarterback while scoring 20 points a game and giving up 19 points a game, would you bet on them to win it all? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebpackfan Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 I’m gonna be at this game. Fast facts: the Green Bay Packers are 2-0 when I’m attending a game at Lambeau. (I also attended a game at County Stadium but it was a Bay of Pigs game in the mid 80s, and I honestly have no recollection of who won). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatKing Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Packerraymond said: The Chargers can also be a dark horse SB pick who is sitting here at 4-5, with their HC one of the most common names on the chopping block. The Chargers are not some great team. They can't defend anything if they don't get home with Bosa and Mack and they'll soon realize what missing Palmer and Williams will do for the coverages Allen gets. Roster-wise right now, this is about as even as you can get. I'd pick the Chargers because Staley isn't quite as bad as Barry, but it should be a 34-28 type game. If it's not, one of the pass rushes consistently got home. Staley is just a bad coach, thats the only reason the Chargers are 4-5. I don't know how you can say they are even close roster wise. Chargers have a significantly better QB and WR, along with a better RB and a comparable OL. The offensive talent isn't even close, if we had a top 5 defense to lean on maybe you can make an argument but we dont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatKing Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 1 hour ago, thrILL! said: Can MLF take the training wheels off before the 4Q? Love has to prove he can pass with efficiency. He's best when he has to throw the ball 30 times or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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