Leader Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, redsoxsuck05 said: Jon Morosi had his Arson Judge moment Edited December 9, 2023 by Leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Same season seat I paid $900 for 10 years ago, is now over 3k lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Baseball is so dumb. The sport badly needs a salary cap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagahide13 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 This is the kind of move that could build a broad international fanbase. The Dodgers already have that, but this should be a big boon. They're definitely equipped to capitalize on the marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 hours ago, nagahide13 said: This is the kind of move that could build a broad international fanbase. The Dodgers already have that, but this should be a big boon. They're definitely equipped to capitalize on the marketing. From a marketing standpoint, its a huge money maker. From a purely baseball viewpoint, its an enormous overpay. Ohtani just had his second reconstructive surgery on his elbow. They arent getting more than 5 pitching seasons out of him. Heck, three would be better than expected. 70 million for a 33+ year old DH is a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Think the math comes out to 48k per inning if he played every game and all innings. regular season. That is insane. And everyday folks are struggling to come to games as some of them don't make what he makes in one inning for their entire year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Baseball is just so broken. Implement a draft lottery with the dumbest rules ever punishing teams trying to build through the draft but also have teams who can simply spend into oblivion and buy all the players those lower market teams developed. Its just a badly broken system with no parity at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 hours ago, detfan782004 said: Think the math comes out to 48k per inning if he played every game and all innings. regular season. That is insane. And everyday folks are struggling to come to games as some of them don't make what he makes in one inning for their entire year. That money is either staying in the owner's pocket or it's going to Ohtani. It's not subsidizing our ticket prices. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 5:10 PM, lavar703 said: Baseball is so dumb. The sport badly needs a salary cap. Why 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 23 hours ago, lavar703 said: Baseball is just so broken. Implement a draft lottery with the dumbest rules ever punishing teams trying to build through the draft but also have teams who can simply spend into oblivion and buy all the players those lower market teams developed. Its just a badly broken system with no parity at all. Nobody "developed" Ohtani, he was this good from jump, everybody had a chance to get him, maybe the other billionaire owners should have spent the money necessary to do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, Thelonebillsfan said: Nobody "developed" Ohtani, he was this good from jump, everybody had a chance to get him, maybe the other billionaire owners should have spent the money necessary to do it. Never said he was developed. Wasn’t specifically referring to ohtanj with that comment. Also, pretending a league where one teams TV deal makes $40M and another’s makes $300M whilst having no salary cap is even a remotely fair system is just silly. Hell, my team doesn’t even get most of the stupid TV deal they’re stuck in with the Orioles. The Dodgers absolutely have a major advantage over most other teams and the other owners being billionaires doesn’t mean they have the cash like the dodgers do to just spend into oblivion. The Rays and the Pirates can’t spend like the Dodgers and neither can a lot of teams. Pretending that’s not true is just silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Just now, lavar703 said: Never said he was developed. Wasn’t specifically referring to ohtanj with that comment. Also, pretending a league where one teams TV deal makes $40M and another’s makes $300M whilst having no salary cap is even a remotely fair system is just silly. Hell, my team doesn’t even get most of the stupid TV deal they’re stuck in with the Orioles. The Dodgers absolutely have a major advantage over most other teams and the other owners being billionaires doesn’t mean they have the cash like the dodgers do to just spend into oblivion. The Rays and the Pirates can’t spend like the Dodgers and neither can a lot of teams. Pretending that’s not true is just silly. Why can't they. If they can't, that sounds like the issue is with ownership not having the actual money to spend, rather than some issue with needing an artificial cap on player wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar703 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Thelonebillsfan said: Why can't they. If they can't, that sounds like the issue is with ownership not having the actual money to spend, rather than some issue with needing an artificial cap on player wages. What do you mean “why can’t they”? The pirates do not make enough revenue to pay Ohtani what the dodgers just did. The dodgers have two other $300M deals on their payroll. It’s a silly broken league that has basically 4 teams that can buy whatever players they want and then the rest have to use the draft and hope they win before arbitration is over and they either have to sell their player to the Dodgers/Yankees/Mets etc at the deadline or they walk for a sandwich draft choice. Im a Nats fan. We have genuinely cheap owners. I’ve watched Harper, Turner, Desmond, Zimmermann, Scherzer, Rendon, Soto etc all leave because our owners are cheap. I’m not defending cheap owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsandBroncos Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, lavar703 said: What do you mean “why can’t they”? The pirates do not make enough revenue to pay Ohtani what the dodgers just did. The dodgers have two other $300M deals on their payroll. It’s a silly broken league that has basically 4 teams that can buy whatever players they want and then the rest have to use the draft and hope they win before arbitration is over and they either have to sell their player to the Dodgers/Yankees/Mets etc at the deadline or they walk for a sandwich draft choice. Im a Nats fan. We have genuinely cheap owners. I’ve watched Harper, Turner, Desmond, Zimmermann, Scherzer, Rendon, Soto etc all leave because our owners are cheap. I’m not defending cheap owners. Still, it does show that teams without a lot of money can win. Astros aren't a financial powerhouse, though they should be these days. Nats just won. They're not big spenders. Royals won less than 10 years ago. They're cheaper than dirt. the dodgers and Yankees have spent the most over the past 20 years and each have 1.5 championships to show for it. money equates to good players, sure. But not necessarily championships. but there are also teams that rake in dough and could spend a lot more but figure out how not to. Like the Braves Edited December 11, 2023 by BullsandBroncos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxsuck05 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) The issue at hand is that these franchises we assume are poor are actually raking in dough. Texas (at least after Hicks sold) and San Diego could've coasted on being a "small-market" team until they decided not to be. Minnesota's billionaire owner literally voted to contract his own team and now they're at least middle-of-the-pack since the old man died. Now I certainly agree that the fairest thing from a competitive standpoint is a salary cap, but that would still require Nutting to spend way more than he is currently. His ilk are money guys through and through. If no one will force them to spend more on on payroll, why would they? The competitive spirit? Edited December 11, 2023 by redsoxsuck05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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