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2 hours ago, nagahide13 said:

This is the kind of move that could build a broad international fanbase. The Dodgers already have that, but this should be a big boon. They're definitely equipped to capitalize on the marketing.

From a marketing standpoint, its a huge money maker.

 

From a purely baseball viewpoint, its an enormous overpay. Ohtani just had his second reconstructive surgery on his elbow. They arent getting more than 5 pitching seasons out of him. Heck, three would be better than expected. 70 million for a 33+ year old DH is a lot. 

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Baseball is just so broken. Implement a draft lottery with the dumbest rules ever punishing teams trying to build through the draft but also have teams who can simply spend into oblivion and buy all the players those lower market teams developed. Its just a badly broken system with no parity at all. 

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2 hours ago, detfan782004 said:

Think the math comes out to 48k per inning if he played every game and all innings. 
 

regular season.

 

That is insane. And everyday folks are struggling to come to games as some of them don't make what he makes in one inning for their entire year. 

That money is either staying in the owner's pocket or it's going to Ohtani. It's not subsidizing our ticket prices.

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23 hours ago, lavar703 said:

Baseball is just so broken. Implement a draft lottery with the dumbest rules ever punishing teams trying to build through the draft but also have teams who can simply spend into oblivion and buy all the players those lower market teams developed. Its just a badly broken system with no parity at all. 

Nobody "developed" Ohtani, he was this good from jump, everybody had a chance to get him, maybe the other billionaire owners should have spent the money necessary to do it.

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16 minutes ago, Thelonebillsfan said:

Nobody "developed" Ohtani, he was this good from jump, everybody had a chance to get him, maybe the other billionaire owners should have spent the money necessary to do it.

Never said he was developed. Wasn’t specifically referring to ohtanj with that comment. Also, pretending a league where one teams TV deal makes $40M and another’s makes $300M whilst having no salary cap is even a remotely fair system is just silly. Hell, my team doesn’t even get most of the stupid TV deal they’re stuck in with the Orioles.
 

The Dodgers absolutely have a major advantage over most other teams and the other owners being billionaires doesn’t mean they have the cash like the dodgers do to just spend into oblivion. The Rays and the Pirates can’t spend like the Dodgers and neither can a lot of teams. Pretending that’s not true is just silly. 

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Just now, lavar703 said:

Never said he was developed. Wasn’t specifically referring to ohtanj with that comment. Also, pretending a league where one teams TV deal makes $40M and another’s makes $300M whilst having no salary cap is even a remotely fair system is just silly. Hell, my team doesn’t even get most of the stupid TV deal they’re stuck in with the Orioles.
 

The Dodgers absolutely have a major advantage over most other teams and the other owners being billionaires doesn’t mean they have the cash like the dodgers do to just spend into oblivion. The Rays and the Pirates can’t spend like the Dodgers and neither can a lot of teams. Pretending that’s not true is just silly. 

Why can't they. If they can't, that sounds like the issue is with ownership not having the actual money to spend, rather than some issue with needing an artificial cap on player wages. 

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7 minutes ago, Thelonebillsfan said:

Why can't they. If they can't, that sounds like the issue is with ownership not having the actual money to spend, rather than some issue with needing an artificial cap on player wages. 

What do you mean “why can’t they”? The pirates do not make enough revenue to pay Ohtani what the dodgers just did. The dodgers have two other $300M deals on their payroll. It’s a silly broken league that has basically 4 teams that can buy whatever players they want and then the rest have to use the draft and hope they win before arbitration is over and they either have to sell their player to the Dodgers/Yankees/Mets etc at the deadline or they walk for a sandwich draft choice. 
 

Im a Nats fan. We have genuinely cheap owners. I’ve watched Harper, Turner, Desmond, Zimmermann, Scherzer, Rendon, Soto etc all leave because our owners are cheap. I’m not defending cheap owners. 

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37 minutes ago, lavar703 said:

What do you mean “why can’t they”? The pirates do not make enough revenue to pay Ohtani what the dodgers just did. The dodgers have two other $300M deals on their payroll. It’s a silly broken league that has basically 4 teams that can buy whatever players they want and then the rest have to use the draft and hope they win before arbitration is over and they either have to sell their player to the Dodgers/Yankees/Mets etc at the deadline or they walk for a sandwich draft choice. 
 

Im a Nats fan. We have genuinely cheap owners. I’ve watched Harper, Turner, Desmond, Zimmermann, Scherzer, Rendon, Soto etc all leave because our owners are cheap. I’m not defending cheap owners. 

Still, it does show that teams without a lot of money can win. Astros aren't a financial powerhouse, though they should be these days. Nats just won. They're not big spenders. Royals won less than 10 years ago. They're cheaper than dirt.

 

the dodgers and Yankees have spent the most over the past 20 years and each have 1.5 championships to show for it. 
 

 

money equates to good players, sure. But not necessarily championships.

 

but there are also teams that rake in dough and could spend a lot more but figure out how not to. Like the Braves

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The issue at hand is that these franchises we assume are poor are actually raking in dough. Texas (at least after Hicks sold) and San Diego could've coasted on being a "small-market" team until they decided not to be. Minnesota's billionaire owner literally voted to contract his own team and now they're at least middle-of-the-pack since the old man died.

Now I certainly agree that the fairest thing from a competitive standpoint is a salary cap, but that would still require Nutting to spend way more than he is currently. His ilk are money guys through and through. If no one will force them to spend more on on payroll, why would they? The competitive spirit?

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