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BDL 2023 Bizz Bowl sponser by Jlash

Match:  New Orleans Jazz vs. Camden Hood Rats

 New Orleans Owner:   @WFLukic

Camden Owner:    @TedLavie

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New Orleans Jazz

Offense:

QB: Josh Allen
RB/WR: Deebo Samuel
WR: D.J. Moore
WR: DeAndre Hopkins
WR: Rashee Rice
TE/FB: Jake Ferguson
LT: Taylor Decker
LG: Joel Bitonio
OC: David Andrews
RG: Connor McGovern (Buf)
RT: Abraham Lucas

Bench:

RB2: Derrick Henry
RB3: Raheem Mostert
RB4: James Conner
WR5: Curtis Samuel
TE2: Dalton Schultz
TE3: Tyler Conklin
OL6: Colton McKivitz
OL7: Greg Van Roten

Defense:

DE: Nick Bosa
DT: Christian Wilkins
DT: Roy Robertson-Harris
DE: Za'darius Smith
LB: DeMario Davis
LB: Azeez Al-Shaair
CB: Stephon Gilmore
CB: Deommodore Lenoir
S: Tyrann Mathieu
S: Julian Love
Slot CB: Mike Hilton

Bench:

DE3: Tuli Tuipulotu
DE4: YaYa Diaby
INT3: Tyree Wilson
INT4: Kevin Strong
LB3: Josey Jewell
CB4: James Bradberry
CB5: Cobie Durant
S3: Taylor Rapp

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Camden Hood Rats

 

QB Tua Tagovailoa
RB Austin Ekeler
WR AJ Brown
WR Nico Collins (Q)
WR Cooper Kupp
TE Kyle Pitts
LT Dion Dawkins
LG Quentin Nelson
C Bradley Bozeman
RG Quinn Meinerz
RT Lane Johnson


Bench

QB Justin Fields
RB Chris Rodriguez Jr.
RB Jerrick McKinnon
WR Rashid Shaheed
WR Gabe Davis
TE Gerald Everett
OL Zach Tom
OL Cody Whitehair

 

RE Josh Allen
DT Aaron Donald
NT Harrison Phillips
LE Montez Sweat
WLB Lavonte David
MLB Nicholas Morrow
CB Darious Williams
CB L’Jarius Sneed
CB Rasul Douglas
FS Malik Hooker
SS Jimmie Ward


Bench

Edge Carl Granderson
Edge Josh Uche
INT Osa Odighizuwa
INT A’Shawn Robinson
LB Frankie Luvu
CB Jonathan Jones
CB Asante Samuel Jr.
S Eddie Jackson

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New Orleans Jazz

Intangibles:

The final friendship bowl between New Orleans and Camden and there’s no better stage than the bizzbowl. 

It’s going to be an emotional affair in coach Lash’s honour but we’re going to try to go out and block the noise. It’s a familiar setting for much of this team who was around for our last Bizzbowl appearance and we’re confident we’ll be able to use this experience to keep calm in this contest and stick to our gameplan. 

Good luck Ted. 

Offense:

70% - 3 WR 1 TE 1 RB
20% - 4 WR 1 RB
10% - 2 TE 2 WR 1 RB

Personnel Changes - We’re making two major personnel changes on offense this week. That is moving Deebo Samuel to get the start at running back, with a greatly increased number of snaps out of the backfield. The other is moving Rashee Rice to take his place in the starting line-up. 

Speed and YAC - We’re prioritising having speed and ability with the ball in hand this week. In a high pressure, intense game where a minor defensive lapse could be the difference between a touchdown and a regular play, having our players who can turn the ordinary into the extraordinary is what we feel will give us the edge. 
Deebo in the backfield - Deebo we feel is the perfect compliment to Allen in the backfield. He’s a great receiver, whether out of the backfield or lined up out-wide. We can use him on pitches and option plays, we can throw screens to him, have him run routes out of the backfield or motion out wide, or even just use him as though he were a regular running back.

Josh the runner - We really want to emphasise Josh’s legs in this match and there’s no need for self-preservation as this is our last game of the season. Bootlegs and roll-outs to get Allen away from a fierce Camden pass-rush in the passing game, with instructions to scramble frequently along with a bunch of designed runs which I’ll elaborate on below. 

React to Camden’s personnel - Simply put, we’re going to follow the defensive personnel Camden send out, especially with Deebo in the backfield. If Camden want to go with two linebackers, then we’ll gladly look to motion Deebo out and target him if he draws the linebacker’s coverage. If Camden want to go light with an extra DB to help mitigate the threat of Deebo as a receiver, we’re more than happy to shift to running plays, whether they’re draws for Allen, or Deebo receiving it both in standard or option style plays. 

Tush Push - Something we haven’t done this season but we’re planning to bring in for short yardage plays is to run the tush push, with Allen at QB and Henry at RB to give us a near 500lb duo pushing behind our OL. We’re going to run this on the goal-line and in any situation where we’re 3rd or 4th and 1.

Ferguson chip blocking - We plan to heavily use Ferguson as a chip blocker to knock either Allen or Sweat off their path to the QB, before becoming a check down option for Allen. We do see a world where Ferguson ends up with 7 or 8 catches because by a simple process of elimination, he’ll be open near the LOS as the defensive backs are preoccupied with our WRs and Deebo, while Allen will draw a QB spy at the second level. 

Passing down field - Given Ferguson, Samuel and Rice will be operating in the shallower game and we’ll have Allen’s legs as a good source of consistent gains to keep the clock running, we’re happy to let Moore and Hopkins go deep. Both are experts with the deep ball, whether it’s Moore burning past players or Hopkins in the contested catch game, so we’re going to let them do their thing and really stretch the field all over. Where Allen manages to evade the rush and extend a play and Hopkins or Moore are down field in single coverage, we’re giving Allen the green light to launch it. Yes we understand there’s a turnover risk and Allen is somewhat turnover prone, but he also’s a point scorer and offense generator like few others have been in history so we’re happy to live by his deep ball in certain circumstances, especially where our offense is otherwise going to be focused on mismatch exploitment and creative running.

Running Game - While Deebo will draw the start at the majority of the RB snaps, he will also play at wideout in our 4WR sets and plenty of our 3 WR sets, with Rice subbing out for a mix of Henry and Mostert (who’ll split carries). We want to keep both guys as fresh as possible and hitting the field at 100%. Misdirection and tosses will be a big part of the game with Mostert as we look to leverage his speed in the open field, while option plays to buy Henry that extra second so he can get downhill will be a focus with him on the field. 

Defense:

Take-away the deep ball - Tua’s success is very much based on being able to stretch the field and hit those big plays. We want to take that away primarily. We’ll do that by having Julian Love playing as our primary deep safety, with Mathieu being given more of a roaming role, but with a focus on also playing somewhat deeper and to help limit the intermediate passing game. 

Sporadic Blitzing - We’re going to be more aggressive than normal and throw a bunch of blitzes in to mix-up Tua’s rhythm and not let him get that clean pocket from which he thrives. We’re going to do this with the 3 most experienced players in our defense, being Mathieu, Davis and Hilton. 
Feed off Mathieu and Davis’ leadership - Two veterans who have played at the highest level for years and are the spiritual leaders of our defense will be tasked with keeping the energy and keeping the focus among the group. We want our defense to respond to them specifically and be guided by what these two are seeing on the field from Camden. Elite MLB play can elevate the rest of the D and that’s what we want from Davis in what will likely be his last shot at a bizzbowl.

Collapse the pocket - While we’re starting with Roy-Robertson Harris at DT, we are going to see plenty of Tyree Wilson and Za’Darius Smith at DT with Tuipulotu coming in on the edge. We want to try and get after Tua as much as possible and that includes preventing him from stepping up into his throws. Apart from the aforementioned sporadic blitzes, our focus will be generating pressure using 4 pass-rushers and trying to either get creative with stunts, especially while showing blitz from the corner, or just telling our guys to bull-rush and collapse the pocket entirely. 

Lessened focus on the run - We don’t want to be unduly dismissive of Camden’s run game, but we’re not too concerned by a dinged up Zack Moss and regressing Austin Ekeler. While we won’t completely sell out to stop the pass, we do want to make it clear that we absolutely see Camden’s offensive game being focused on the pass and the only way they can continually put up points on the board. If they manage to beat us with this running duo against our stout defensive front, then so be it.

Coverage:
Primarily cover 1 man, with a bit of cover 2 man. While Tua does well against man, we believe that it’s also in large part due to the presence of speedsters IRL which he doesn’t have in the BDL. 

Love will be our deep safety, Mathieu will operate at the intermediate level, being given the choice to either stay there or drop back depending on what our pre-snap read of the offense is. In terms of man assignments, we’ll go with:

Brown - Gilmore
Kupp - Lenoir
Davis/Collins - Hilton
Pitts - Al-Shaair
Ekeler / RB - Davis

We'll then substitute accordingly based on the line up, with the LBs coming in for TEs and CBs for WRs. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Camden Hood Rats

Motivation


We would like to acknowledge the greatness of our opponent. Lukic is probably overdue a title by now, and we’re honored to compete against New Orleans for one last Friendship Bowl with Camden.


With that being said, let’s bring the Joe Lash Trophy to Camden!


Offense


Air it out – We’ll focus on the passing game today (60/40 ish ratio depending on the flow of the game) with the aim of spreading out this defense and finding good matchups against New Orleans secondary. Our base offense is going to be a classic 11 formation (60%) but we’re going to roll out some 4WR (25%) sets but also some 12 looks (15%) to target New Orleans depth at CB and LB. As always expect a fair share of motions to 
Attack on all levels – We are going to attack all levels of the field. Collins, Shaheed and Kupp will all rotate for WR2 and WR3 and see significant snaps. Big Game Gabe will see the field as WR4 in 4WR sets


•    Intermediate: New Orleans usually plays in a cover 1 man scheme, but we expect them to use their second safety to double AJ Brown. That should leave some space in the middle of the field. Our slot receiver (Cooper Kupp mostly, Shaheed a little) will focus his route running on providing an option in the intermediate area for Tua as like his matchup against Hilton. Kupp routes will often include an option for a corner route to counter the strong safety dropping closer to the LoS. 

AJ Brown will also run a fairly good amount of routes in the intermediate area. If he’s singled or against zone, he’s gonna get targeted. If he’s doubled, which we expect, that will pull in a safety and serve as a decoy to free up for our deep passing.

•    Deep: We’re going to have a number of double post routes with Pitts (or Davis in 4WR sets) and Shaheed/Collins, both lined up on the same side. If one safety is busy on AJ Brown, that should leave one safety for those two. We think Pitts will pull the FS as none of New Orleans LBs have the top-end speed to run with him leaving a 1vs1 matchup for Collins/Shaheed but either way, that will often leave someone in single coverage for Tua to target, and he will take those shots. Of course, if both safeties are up or if NOLA is in cover 3, then secondary reads of Kupp/AJ in the intermediate level come in to play.

•    Short: Nico Collins is one of the best wideouts in the NFL at creating YAC (NO isn’t the only team with some of those  ) and we don’t think Gilmore, Bradberry or any NO outside corner is good enough to stop him in the open field. So we’ll draw around 5 plays where we isolate Nico on one side of the field with Kupp/Pitts/Brown on the other one and throw short stuff hoping he can make his corner miss and get big yardage. After 3 tries, we’ll run a similar play but instead of throwing it immediately Tua will fake it, Nico will run a deep route and we’ll see if the corner bites. 

We’ll also design a couple of plays to have Ekeler isolated against a LB and apply similar concepts – especially if Walker is out. This will ramp up to 5ish plays if Collins is out. Ekeler will see also some screens to keep NOLA blitzes in check.

 

Protect Tua – Because our plan is centered around our passing game, it will put pressure on our OL to keep Tua uptight (this one is for Scoundrel). Bosa and Wilkins are the two main threats in terms of pass rush, and we want to focus on protecting Tua’s blindside.


Thus, when Bosa is lined up at left end and Wilkins isn’t next to him, we’ll shift protection to the right side to help Lane with Meinerz, trusting the rest of the matchups 1vs1. In situations with Bosa at LE and Wilkins at LDT, Meinerz and Bozeman will team up on Wilkins and our RB (or TE2 in 12 sets) will help Lane – by staying in pass pro or offering a chip on Bosa. When Bosa is lined up at RE, Bozeman will help whichever guard has Wilkins unless NOLA shows inside blitz.


We don’t expect a ton of blitzes in this one but Bozeman will be responsible for inside blitz pickup, the RB for outside blitz pickup. Additionally, in specific passing situations – 4WR sets or 3rd and longs for instance – we’ll have our RB offer additional pass protection, by staying in, a chip or a delayed route.


Complementary running game – Our running backs are what they are, and Louisiana defensive front is solid. Because of that, we expect Louisiana to take more steps to defend the pass, with two deep safeties and possible by sliding someone like Bosa or Wilson inside. But our OL is stout as well and we think it can give opportunities for our running game to succeed against lighter fronts.


We will try to keep our running game balanced, but we will have a slight preference with running behind the right side of our line and Meinerz/Johnson. We will try to motion Pitts out to have a LB less in the box (and hide his blocking deficiencies) while bringing Kupp or Collins, both being solid blockers, from the slot closer to the LoS. In some cases, we will also have Everett in at TE and Pitts in the slot, with Everett taking Kupp role in the passing game (intermediate route responsibility).


If a defensive end kicks inside on a non-passing down, we will often run straight at him with a counter to exploit that mismatch.

Ekeler gets the start and most of the touches due to the importance of our passing game in this game, but with Moss out we will give Chris Rodriguez Jr. some carries in the running game. McKinnon will be our 3rd down back to give a breather to Ekeler on passing downs.


Finally, we’ve prepared some Wildcat plays for Justin Fields again – mostly runs but a couple of deep passes to Collins/Pitts as well. We do not plan to use any, but should our offense struggle more than we expect, we will use those to surprise New Orleans and kick start our offense.

 

Defense

Formation versatility & coverage responsibilities – The coverage schemes are going to be detailed later but our DBs will follow their WRs to not tip off our hand to Josh Allen.


Against classic 11 formations: Starting lineup as shown above.
•    Darious Williams vs DJ Moore
•    Rasul Douglas vs Hopkins
•    L’Jarius Sneed vs Deebo
•    Lavonte David vs Ferguson when Mostert is RB, Henry when he’s the RB
•    Jimmie Ward vs Ferguson when Henry is RB, Mostert if he’s the RB
•    In cover 1 man, Malik Hooker (Jackson if out) gets deep zone, usually towards DJ Moore side


Against 11 formations with Deebo at RB: 
•    Sneed vs Rice
•    Jimmie Ward vs Deebo
•    Lavonte vs Ferguson


Against 10 formations (with Jones in): Jonathan Jones comes in for David and shadows Rice, unless Deebo is at RB in which case Sneed shadows Rice and Jones shadows WR4.


Against 10 formations (with Jones out): Asante Samuel Jr. comes in for David and shadows Moore, with Darious Williams shadowing Rice, unless Deebo is at RB in which case Sneed shadows Rice and Samuel Jr. shadows WR4.


Against empty sets: Same as 10 formations with Ward getting WR5


Against 12 formations: Luvu comes in for Darious Williams and gets Henry if he’s the RB, the TE2 otherwise.
 

Against 21 formations: If Deebo is one of the RBs, same as 11 formations. If it’s Mostert/Henry, Jackson comes in for Darious Williams 
 

Against 13 formations: Jackson comes in for Douglas

 

DL discipline and rotation – In all schemes, but especially in cover 2 man or in blitz situation, maintaining gap integrity will be key to prevent Josh Allen to run all over us. We will, as always, heavily rotate (one player by player, not everyone at once) to keep everyone fresh. On passing downs, Osa starts over Phillips.


 
Force Allen to be patient – We want to force Allen to move the ball by dinking and dunking while being aggressive on Deebo (see later). We think that’s our best way forward and that will frustrate Allen and force him into mistakes.


On base downs, we will combine that with a will to stop the run so we will play mostly in cover 3. We will have some (around 20% of the base downs basically) snaps where we get a bit more aggressive and play in a cover 1 off man, with Hooker helping Darious on DJ Moore. On these snaps, Morrow either blitzes or plays middle zone while spying Allen.


On passing downs, with the threat of the running game diminished, we will have Ward starting at a deeper position. We will then alternate between different schemes: cover 2 off man, cover 1 off man with Ward dropping in middle zone to spy Allen. Cover 2 zone, Tampa 2 with Morrow dropping back in deep coverage and cover 4.
With all those schemes having the same starting position and everyone in off coverage (aside from Sneed/Jones) this should give us unpredictability and help us get the turnover that wins us the game. 


Defend Deebo (and Rice) – While forcing Allen to dink and dunk is the way to go, New Orleans has two of the best YAC creators in the NFL in Deebo and Rashee Rice. This is why we have decided to counter that with two aggressive corners who can play inside and outside in Sneed and Jones (or Darious if Jones is out). 
We expect New Orleans to target the middle of the field and our LB crew with those guys. Thus, while the rest of the team will be in off coverage, we want Sneed and Jones, when he’s in, to play closer the LoS against Deebo and Rice. 


If they are lined up in the slot, we want Sneed/Jones to bump them at the LoS with inside leverage to push them outside or at least slow down their route before releasing to their zone assignment. That should at the same time cut the slant opportunity for the outside receiver.


If Deebo is outside with a slot receiver next to him, Sneed will play press-bail technique with inside leverage as well. (same goes with Jones and Rice)


If Deebo is isolated outside in cover 3 looks, we’ll switch to a 3 buzz mable with Sneed in press man against Deebo (see image below). We don’t think Deebo is beating Sneed deep so we are comfortable with that. (again, same thing with Jones and Rice)
 

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On passing downs, NOLA tends to have Deebo at RB. When that’s the case, Jackson comes in for Morrow with Ward playing the MLB position.
 

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One thing I've learned from last year is people love Deebo as a runner but only as a bonus runner. They hate it when he is mentioned as the main run game. It's better off perceived as an empty backfield with Deebo shifting or coming around to be a carrier than it is for people to think he is a RB.

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Good lord, what a choice to go with Deebo in the backfield in the BizzBowl. Lukic is damn lucky we've seen Deebo in a RB role before and know he can be effective as a weapon there. I don't like the decision to give him the "majority" of running back snaps; his career high is 10 carries, and like LAOJoe said, he's more of a complementary player than someone you want coming out of the backfield regularly. Especially with a potent 1-2 punch with Henry and Mostert, that doesn't seem like the best use of your personnel.

I also think the gameplan of forcing Allen to move the chains underneath without a true running threat (because of course Camden knows Deebo is primarily a receiving threat out of the backfield) plays into Allen's worst traits. Flat-out, I don't believe Allen is mentally capable of being patient and taking what the defense gives him. Camden is going to get a couple turnovers simply due to Allen's carelessness with the ball.

On the other hand, Ward covering Deebo? A 32 year old safety who's missed 5 games this season due to injury? That's a gross mismatch all day long. Think Deebo gets a couple big runs here that extend some drives that otherwise wouldn't have ended in points. Otherwise, I love what Camden did defensively against the Jazz.

I love seeing a team mention that they're using shorter routes to set up a deep shot, as Camden is doing with Collins here. I think it's especially effective given the age and play of the New Orleans secondary. Not having Simmons here is a huge loss imo, as I don't believe Camden's line could hold up well enough to run the offense they want to run otherwise. I love what New Orleans opted to do with blitzing and substitutions to generate pressure, however.

Opting not to bracket or double AJ Brown is certainly a bold choice, as I don't feel that confident in Gilmore completely locking him down. I also don't think New Orleans could be any more wrong about Tua not having burners here; while they're not the sub-4.3 guy Tyreek Hill is, AJ Brown is a proven deep threat, Nico Collins is putting up 16 yards a catch, and Rashid Shaheed is nothing but a speed guy. Underestimating the Camden offensive weapons in the passing game, especially with Deommodore Lenoir as the No. 2 outside corner, is a problem imo.

I came into this thinking New Orleans had the better skill talent, and of course both teams have strong defensive lines going up against less-strong offensive lines. Allen has the better escapability, but I think the decision to put the run game on Deebo's shoulders allows the Camden line to pin its ears back more confidently than they normally would, especially with a Cover-3 designed to take away the deep ball. It's definitely a close game and the lack of a serious run threat from Camden means they can't confidently put the game away even with a late lead, but I see this ending with a Camden win on an interception on New Orleans' final drive.

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1 hour ago, Blue said:

Good lord, what a choice to go with Deebo in the backfield in the BizzBowl. Lukic is damn lucky we've seen Deebo in a RB role before and know he can be effective as a weapon there. I don't like the decision to give him the "majority" of running back snaps; his career high is 10 carries, and like LAOJoe said, he's more of a complementary player than someone you want coming out of the backfield regularly. Especially with a potent 1-2 punch with Henry and Mostert, that doesn't seem like the best use of your personnel.

I also think the gameplan of forcing Allen to move the chains underneath without a true running threat (because of course Camden knows Deebo is primarily a receiving threat out of the backfield) plays into Allen's worst traits. Flat-out, I don't believe Allen is mentally capable of being patient and taking what the defense gives him. Camden is going to get a couple turnovers simply due to Allen's carelessness with the ball.

On the other hand, Ward covering Deebo? A 32 year old safety who's missed 5 games this season due to injury? That's a gross mismatch all day long. Think Deebo gets a couple big runs here that extend some drives that otherwise wouldn't have ended in points. Otherwise, I love what Camden did defensively against the Jazz.

I love seeing a team mention that they're using shorter routes to set up a deep shot, as Camden is doing with Collins here. I think it's especially effective given the age and play of the New Orleans secondary. Not having Simmons here is a huge loss imo, as I don't believe Camden's line could hold up well enough to run the offense they want to run otherwise. I love what New Orleans opted to do with blitzing and substitutions to generate pressure, however.

Opting not to bracket or double AJ Brown is certainly a bold choice, as I don't feel that confident in Gilmore completely locking him down. I also don't think New Orleans could be any more wrong about Tua not having burners here; while they're not the sub-4.3 guy Tyreek Hill is, AJ Brown is a proven deep threat, Nico Collins is putting up 16 yards a catch, and Rashid Shaheed is nothing but a speed guy. Underestimating the Camden offensive weapons in the passing game, especially with Deommodore Lenoir as the No. 2 outside corner, is a problem imo.

I came into this thinking New Orleans had the better skill talent, and of course both teams have strong defensive lines going up against less-strong offensive lines. Allen has the better escapability, but I think the decision to put the run game on Deebo's shoulders allows the Camden line to pin its ears back more confidently than they normally would, especially with a Cover-3 designed to take away the deep ball. It's definitely a close game and the lack of a serious run threat from Camden means they can't confidently put the game away even with a late lead, but I see this ending with a Camden win on an interception on New Orleans' final drive.

Appreciate the analysis and time taken on this one.

Fwiw Gilmore did lock him down a few weeks back. Now if you think it was a fluke or it would be different if they were to go at it again but with Tua instead of Hurts, then fair enough. But Gilmore has shown he definitely can do it, at least for one game.

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