CP3MVP Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, 49ersfan said: Texans with Watson? In the 2019 playoffs they beat the Bills & had a 24-0 lead over the Chiefs. Things unravelled from there in like the worst way possible and they had a really bad 4 year stretch....they've righted the ship with Ryans & Stroud for now Falcons with Matt Ryan? I remember after 2008 everyone thought he was the next big thing. He made the NFCCG twice (2012 & 2016) & SB once (2016) Packers with Rodgers? Maybe it doesn't count since they did win it all in 2010. But after that SB, everyone thought this was the beginning of a new dynasty. Especially because they went 15-1 the following season. Then they went one & done to the Giants & haven't even made a SB since, although they came close with 4 NFCCG appearances Is crazy how Watson’s career(and that team) has gone. That game against the chiefs is interesting because that core hasn’t won a title yet and all they were known for was choking a home AFC championship game to NE. The Mystique of playoffs in arrowhead wasn’t a thing yet and if you look at the comments in many game threads people were saying how damn they blew their chance last year against the Pats. In regards to the packers we thought they were going to be the current chiefs. They were kinda lucky in the sense that the NFC was so weak in 2010. There’s several teams that never made a SB that coulda beat the 11-5 lovie smith/Jay Cutler bears in an NFC title game Edited January 21 by CP3MVP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, iknowcool said: 2016 Oakland Raiders Derek Carr led the Raiders to a 12-3 record (finished 12-4) and a lot of people, including myself, thought he was on track to be a top-5 QB. He finished 3rd in MVP voting that year. They also had Amari Cooper and Khali Mack, two highly regarded prospects who were living up to their potential. With 3 young players at key positions all looking like they could be All-Pro talent, coming off that kind of season, almost everyone had the Raiders penciled in as a team that could potentially win big in the following seasons. Then Carr got hurt to end the year, Mack and Cooper got traded in the years that followed, and Raiders haven't come close to a season that good again. It would be like if Stroud flatlined as a QB and the Texans traded Nico Collins and Will Anderson within the next 2 years, and never made the playoffs for another 5-6 years. Early 2010s Bengals with Dalton and Lewis are a good example too. That was a pretty young team. 5 consecutive wildcard round losses. Wonder how much better they would have fared in 2015 if Dalton never got hurt. People were saying that they were ripe for regression at the time though. Like they had an unusual record in one score games and many of those games were against bad teams in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Baker mayfield era browns. people were saying that team could run the AFC with KC.....all they have to show for it was a covid playoff win against a sinking steelers team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicfre2011 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, iknowcool said: 2016 Oakland Raiders Derek Carr led the Raiders to a 12-3 record (finished 12-4) and a lot of people, including myself, thought he was on track to be a top-5 QB. He finished 3rd in MVP voting that year. They also had Amari Cooper and Khali Mack, two highly regarded prospects who were living up to their potential. With 3 young players at key positions all looking like they could be All-Pro talent, coming off that kind of season, almost everyone had the Raiders penciled in as a team that could potentially win big in the following seasons. Then Carr got hurt to end the year, Mack and Cooper got traded in the years that followed, and Raiders haven't come close to a season that good again. It would be like if Stroud flatlined as a QB and the Texans traded Nico Collins and Will Anderson within the next 2 years, and never made the playoffs for another 5-6 years. Early 2010s Bengals with Dalton and Lewis are a good example too. That was a pretty young team. 5 consecutive wildcard round losses. Wonder how much better they would have fared in 2015 if Dalton never got hurt. I am hoping when it's all said and done that the Burrow led Bengals and Sirianni led Eagles are included in this discussion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelersfan43 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 15 minutes ago, CP3MVP said: People were saying that they were ripe for regression at the time though. Like they had an unusual record in one score games and many of those games were against bad teams in 2016. The raiders defense were also very poor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game3525 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, wackywabbit said: Most of them didn't/won't make a single super bowl. There isn't going to be linear upward growth in success and things change fast in the NFL. What you hope is that it develops into a team that reliably gets to the playoffs with some hope and breaks through one of those times. Exactly. The Patriots have messed up everyone's perception in terms of winning championships. They are an outlier. What teams really should strive to be is like the Manning Colts. A consistent playoff team every year and one of those years everything breaks right and you win the whole thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP3MVP Posted January 21 Author Share Posted January 21 21 minutes ago, Steelersfan43 said: The raiders defense were also very poor It was literally Mack save us at the end of games with clutch sacks turnovers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 hours ago, Steelersfan43 said: The dolphins with a young Dan Marino This is where I immediately went - SB bound, setting league records as a rookie and then they just faltered. There's some bad luck with running into those 80s Broncos and 90s Bills. Do the Randall Cunningham-led Eagles count? Cunningham was a QB who took a portal from today and time traveled back to the 80s, "QB Eagles 12" was a monster with a strong enough supporting cast on offense and a Ravens-esque defense headed up by Reggie White. For this team to not even make a SB is baffling, and goes to show you it's all on when you get hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 53 minutes ago, Calamity_Cometh said: Maybe 2017 Sacksonville qualifies? I know they had a few vets though. Unpopular opinion - that Sacksonville team was the product of injuries completely ruining the AFC South. Jacksonville went 4-2 in division, but the Colts were operating without Andrew Luck (first time missing the entire season) and the Texans lost JJ Watt and rookie Deshaun Watson relatively quickly in-season. The only team that didn't suffer significant injuries were the Tennessee Titans - who beat Jacksonville both times that year. The butterfly effect here is that if the Jags don't win the division and don't go on their playoff run, they don't extend Blake Bortles - so I guess it worked out for everyone else in the AFCS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelersfan43 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 6 minutes ago, ET80 said: Unpopular opinion - that Sacksonville team was the product of injuries completely ruining the AFC South. Jacksonville went 4-2 in division, but the Colts were operating without Andrew Luck (first time missing the entire season) and the Texans lost JJ Watt and rookie Deshaun Watson relatively quickly in-season. The only team that didn't suffer significant injuries were the Tennessee Titans - who beat Jacksonville both times that year. The butterfly effect here is that if the Jags don't win the division and don't go on their playoff run, they don't extend Blake Bortles - so I guess it worked out for everyone else in the AFCS. The 2017 Jaguars are maybe the biggest one hit wonder for a team(with the 2001 bears)in NFL history....Terrible for so many years,one great year in between and awful again for the next 4 years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) Not quite young, but the 1999-2003 Titans. That team was chock full of Hall of Very Good players throughout the roster (Steve McNair, Eddie George, late career Bruce Matthews, Brad Hopkins, Derrick Mason, Frank Wycheck, Jevon Kearse, Kevin Carter, Keith Bulluck, Samari Rolle, Blaine Bishop) and were just a couple of plays away from being 2x champions and making another AFC Championship game. Edited January 21 by seminoles1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Those Viking teams with Daunte and Moss.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelersfan43 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I think the chargers with Dan Fouts deserve a mention but their defense were just awful too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Chargers as well. all pros in every position. That loss to the jets at home was so bad. They used Nate Kaeding as a scapegoat. But my gosh those charger teams were stacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncoSojia Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 hours ago, August4th said: those LT, Gates and Rivers charger teams I came here to mention them. They won 14, 11, 8, and 13 games in a 4 year span with 4 division titles and not a single SB appearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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