game3525 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, kramxel said: And Rivers as well, not to Weddle's extent, but moving of veteran players was not always handled with the greatest of touches. Can't blame Rivers for being at bit annoyed with Telesco. He never fixed the offensive line and then saddled him with Mike McCoy and Anthony Lynn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kael Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 24 minutes ago, Dodo said: Didn't Weddle hate him or felt disrespected by him? Don't remember the details The Chargers have historically not handled the late career of their franchise players well at all. Just look at Junior Seau, Ladanian Tomlinson, Weddle, Rivers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Ramster Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, Kael said: The Chargers have historically not handled the late career of their franchise players well at all. Just look at Junior Seau, Ladanian Tomlinson, Weddle, Rivers. Rodney, Shawn and many more. It has to with the fam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramxel Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, game3525 said: Can't blame Rivers for being at bit annoyed with Telesco. He never fixed the offensive line and then saddled him with Mike McCoy and Anthony Lynn. With Rivers, Spanos were also a factor, especially how they handled the San Diego exit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, Tank4Drake said: I’ve been saying Mark needs to sell the team for years and 90% of fans defend the dude… something is deeply wrong with our fanbase, they are too loyal to members and players of the organization. Or we simply don't care to work ourselves up over crap we can't control. I will never understand keyboard warriors crying over a billionaire owner of a sports team. Support him or don't, spare us the bellyaching. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, big_palooka said: Or we simply don't care to work ourselves up over crap we can't control. I will never understand keyboard warriors crying over a billionaire owner of a sports team. Support him or don't, spare us the bellyaching. I’m not talking about “work yourself up” im talking about defending horrible decisions. People still defend Mark. People still act like he’s a good owner. He’s not. Outside of the move to Vegas, there are no examples of him being a competent NFL owner. I bet you’re already defending this move? Convincing yourself the Chargers had good rosters and it was all coaching huh? Cute. I’ve been calling the Chargers rosters fools gold on paper for years. Telesco is trash. Obviously I will have to accept it over the next few days, and try to get hyped about it/cope, but Mark Davis proves he’s a bad owner with zero football acumen over and over and over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Was he responsible for the coaching hires? They always had good top end star talent, but their depth players were lacking. Was it the GM picking those players or the actual coaching development of them which was awful? Tom Telesco didn't blow a 27 point lead in the playoffs after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, Tank4Drake said: I’m not talking about “work yourself up” im talking about defending horrible decisions. People still defend Mark. People still act like he’s a good owner. He’s not. Outside of the move to Vegas, there are no examples of him being a competent NFL owner. I bet you’re already defending this move? Convincing yourself the Chargers had good rosters and it was all coaching huh? Cute. I’ve been calling the Chargers rosters fools gold on paper for years. Telesco is trash. Obviously I will have to accept it over the next few days, and try to get hyped about it/cope, but Mark Davis proves he’s a bad owner with zero football acumen over and over and over. I don't care about that. I'm talking about constantly going on childish tirades about Mark Davis, nonstop. Nobody cares. Mark is the Tommy Boy of owners, accept it and move on. Don't like it, find you another owner who meets your expectations. Not that hard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderX Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 The worst of the candidates. No idea what Davis is doing not even interviewing other HC candidates, and passing in better quality candidates for a proven failure in the FO. Off-season off to a horrible start already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 hours ago, Broncofan said: Big star picks: Joey Bosa, Justin Herbert, Rashawn Slater - here's the thing - they were the default pick where the Chargers were. ngl a lot of Raider issues are literally never taking the default obvious pick in the first round. ie. Alex Leatherwood over Christian Darrisaw ie. Henry Ruggs (though he was at least a 1st round prospect) over Ceedee Lamb ie. Clelin Ferell over every prospect in the draft other than Kyler, Bosa and Quinnen (popular obvious picks were like Ed Oliver, Devin White and Josh Allen the DE/LB) ie. Tyree Wilson over Jalen Carter that sorta thing 1 23 Oakland Raiders Fabian Washington CB Nebraska Big 12 from Seattle[R1 - 6] 1 24 Green Bay Packers Aaron Rodgers † QB California Pac-10 that sorta thing 1 7 Oakland Raiders Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland ACC 1 8 Jacksonville Jaguars Eugene Monroe OT Virginia ACC 1 9 Green Bay Packers B. J. Raji † DT Boston College ACC 1 10 San Francisco 49ers Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech Big 12 that sorta thing 1 24 Oakland Raiders Gareon Conley CB Ohio State Big Ten 1 27 Buffalo Bills Tre'Davious White † CB LSU SEC from Kansas City [R1 - 9] the sorta thing where you keep sell your stars for picks and mess up in the first ~15 minutes of the event 1 4 Oakland Raiders Clelin Ferrell DE Clemson ACC 2018 Hendricks Award winner 1 16 Carolina Panthers Brian Burns † DE Florida State ACC 1 26 Washington Redskins Montez Sweat † DE Mississippi State SEC from Indianapolis [R1 - 8] the sorta thing almost everyone selected around makes a probowl sorta thing 1 2 Detroit Lions Ndamukong Suh † DT Nebraska Big 12 1 3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Gerald McCoy † DT Oklahoma Big 12 1 4 Washington Redskins Trent Williams † OT Oklahoma Big 12 1 5 Kansas City Chiefs Eric Berry † S Tennessee SEC 1 6 Seattle Seahawks Russell Okung † OT Oklahoma State Big 12 1 7 Cleveland Browns Joe Haden † CB Florida SEC 1 8 Oakland Raiders Rolando McClain LB Alabama SEC 1 9 Buffalo Bills C. J. Spiller † RB Clemson ACC 1 10 Jacksonville Jaguars Tyson Alualu DT California Pac-10 1 11 San Francisco 49ers Anthony Davis OT Rutgers Big East from Chicago via Denver[R1 - 1] 1 12 San Diego Chargers Ryan Mathews † RB Fresno State WAC from Miami [R1 - 2] 1 13 Philadelphia Eagles Brandon Graham † DE Michigan Big Ten from San Francisco via Denver[R1 - 3] 1 14 Seattle Seahawks Earl Thomas † S Texas Big 12 from Denver [R1 - 4] 1 15 New York Giants Jason Pierre-Paul † DE South Florida Big East that sorta thing where the next two. make the HOF and you get Jamarcus Rnd. Pick No. NFL team Player Pos. College Conf. Notes 1 1 Oakland Raiders JaMarcus Russell QB LSU SEC 1 2 Detroit Lions Calvin Johnson‡† WR Georgia Tech ACC 1 3 Cleveland Browns Joe Thomas‡† OT Wisconsin Big Ten 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Geezy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 hours ago, Kael said: The Chargers have historically not handled the late career of their franchise players well at all. Just look at Junior Seau, Ladanian Tomlinson, Weddle, Rivers. Pretty sure that’s a Spanos thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicMT Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Whelp, that's as bad as it gets! So Davis didn't want to hire an unproven GM so he hired a proven bad one? You want the guy who drafted Johnston over Flowers and Addison just last draft (yep we can probably say it's a bad miss already) and who doesn't even re-sign the players he's been drafting? Sorry for the Raiders fans out here, that's probably the last guy the fan base wanted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 11 minutes ago, MagicMT said: Whelp, that's as bad as it gets! So Davis didn't want to hire an unproven GM so he hired a proven bad one? You want the guy who drafted Johnston over Flowers and Addison just last draft (yep we can probably say it's a bad miss already) and who doesn't even re-sign the players he's been drafting? Sorry for the Raiders fans out here, that's probably the last guy the fan base wanted Almost everyone wanted Dodds. I wanted Dodds or Trey Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukjets21 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 hours ago, Trojan said: ngl a lot of Raider issues are literally never taking the default obvious pick in the first round. ie. Alex Leatherwood over Christian Darrisaw ie. Henry Ruggs (though he was at least a 1st round prospect) over Ceedee Lamb ie. Clelin Ferell over every prospect in the draft other than Kyler, Bosa and Quinnen (popular obvious picks were like Ed Oliver, Devin White and Josh Allen the DE/LB) ie. Tyree Wilson over Jalen Carter that sorta thing 1 23 Oakland Raiders Fabian Washington CB Nebraska Big 12 from Seattle[R1 - 6] 1 24 Green Bay Packers Aaron Rodgers † QB California Pac-10 that sorta thing 1 7 Oakland Raiders Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland ACC 1 8 Jacksonville Jaguars Eugene Monroe OT Virginia ACC 1 9 Green Bay Packers B. J. Raji † DT Boston College ACC 1 10 San Francisco 49ers Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech Big 12 that sorta thing 1 24 Oakland Raiders Gareon Conley CB Ohio State Big Ten 1 27 Buffalo Bills Tre'Davious White † CB LSU SEC from Kansas City [R1 - 9] the sorta thing where you keep sell your stars for picks and mess up in the first ~15 minutes of the event 1 4 Oakland Raiders Clelin Ferrell DE Clemson ACC 2018 Hendricks Award winner 1 16 Carolina Panthers Brian Burns † DE Florida State ACC 1 26 Washington Redskins Montez Sweat † DE Mississippi State SEC from Indianapolis [R1 - 8] the sorta thing almost everyone selected around makes a probowl sorta thing 1 2 Detroit Lions Ndamukong Suh † DT Nebraska Big 12 1 3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Gerald McCoy † DT Oklahoma Big 12 1 4 Washington Redskins Trent Williams † OT Oklahoma Big 12 1 5 Kansas City Chiefs Eric Berry † S Tennessee SEC 1 6 Seattle Seahawks Russell Okung † OT Oklahoma State Big 12 1 7 Cleveland Browns Joe Haden † CB Florida SEC 1 8 Oakland Raiders Rolando McClain LB Alabama SEC 1 9 Buffalo Bills C. J. Spiller † RB Clemson ACC 1 10 Jacksonville Jaguars Tyson Alualu DT California Pac-10 1 11 San Francisco 49ers Anthony Davis OT Rutgers Big East from Chicago via Denver[R1 - 1] 1 12 San Diego Chargers Ryan Mathews † RB Fresno State WAC from Miami [R1 - 2] 1 13 Philadelphia Eagles Brandon Graham † DE Michigan Big Ten from San Francisco via Denver[R1 - 3] 1 14 Seattle Seahawks Earl Thomas † S Texas Big 12 from Denver [R1 - 4] 1 15 New York Giants Jason Pierre-Paul † DE South Florida Big East that sorta thing where the next two. make the HOF and you get Jamarcus Rnd. Pick No. NFL team Player Pos. College Conf. Notes 1 1 Oakland Raiders JaMarcus Russell QB LSU SEC 1 2 Detroit Lions Calvin Johnson‡† WR Georgia Tech ACC 1 3 Cleveland Browns Joe Thomas‡† OT Wisconsin Big Ten Rolando McClain was the obvious pick, but yeah the others all stink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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