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Predict the Patriots' future post-Tom Brady

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This is in no way to suggest that I think the end of the Brady era might be upon us. But it's definitely something that's been on my mind ever since the Garoppolo trade. Clearly the team held out hope that they could keep both QBs until the very end, and Garoppolo's play through two starts in San Francisco has validated the concern of many Patriots fans that the team basically gave away their QBotF. Further compounding matters is the earlier trade of Jacoby Brissett, who, despite facing the type of struggles one would expect from a raw 2nd year QB playing behind a terrible offensive line, has shown that he at least belongs in the NFL. 

So I wonder how other fan bases see things playing out when the day finally comes and Brady decides to leave.

Reasons for pessimism:

-No Garoppolo or Brissett, so the future QB situation is a complete unknown.

-Track record of drafting QBs between Brady and Garoppolo has not been good (best pick was Matt Cassel, who was a 7th round flier; other high picks were Kevin O'Connell and Ryan Mallett, who were disasters).

-Belichick will be 66 next season and might go even before Brady does.

-No guarantee Belichick will be able to pass the team off to one of his preferred successors, as McDaniels and Patricia have been viewed as prime HC candidates elsewhere for two years in a row.

-Rest of the roster isn't all that great right now. Especially the defensive front-7.

 

Reasons for optimism:

-Netting that 2nd rounder in the Garoppolo trade means they can go after a QB pretty early in the 2018 draft, which is looking like a strong QB class (2019 looks solid as well, at least at the moment).

-Belichick and Brady almost certainly won't be retiring before next season, which means that if they do take a QB high in the next draft he can have at least a year of learning at the feet of the best.

-The other core talent on the roster is still relatively young and there aren't many big contracts currently eating up cap space so they have the freedom to spend for the next few seasons to bolster the roster and make the transition to the next QB smoother.

-Even if McDaniels and Patricia leave, there are a lot of other assistant coaches on the roster who have been in the system a long time and can be promoted from within readily to preserve continuity.

-Solid, stable ownership.

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I think once BB leaves it's going to be hard times again for them. He's a once in a lifetime coach. Odds are you won't have a great head coach after him. Its hard to find great coaches. He's 66 and he'll probably retire in a year or 2 I'd like to think. Brady is awesome but lets see if he stays and how well he does after his coach leaves. Enjoy what you have cuz it's gonna be gone soon.

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They'll be like the Cleveland  Browns after their dynasty. Bottom of the barrel and mid range at best for the next 50 years. 

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Just now, biletnikoff said:

They'll be like the Cleveland  Browns after their dynasty. Bottom of the barrel and mid range at best for the next 50 years. 

50 years! xDxD

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7 minutes ago, biletnikoff said:

They'll be like the Cleveland  Browns after their dynasty. Bottom of the barrel and mid range at best for the next 50 years. 

What dynasty? The dynasty of being terrible???

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would be weird not seeing the pats go 12-4 and winning the AFC east

this run of success can't run forever?

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I'd imagine the demonic magic that bellicheck used to fuel his dynasties will eventually catch up to the patriots and the devil will get what he is owed. 

I have no clue what the future patriots teams will look like but their dark magic has to catch up with them....Hopefully because I'm sick of the patriots.

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An 8-10 win season, followed by a 9-11 win season with them finishing strong. After that, they go back to dominating.

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When Brady retires I think BB does as well. I expect them to remain competitive while also dropping off considerably at the QB position (simply based on what they currently have behind TB at the position).

I suspect several of the higher paid players will find themselves on new teams for somewhat of a NE rebuild.

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I'm not concerned for Pats future post-Brady, BB will still be able to keep the team competitive, even if not necessarily a perpetual superbowl contender.  My concern would be the Pats post-Belichick.

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Since Kraft became an owner the coaches he had hired were Parcells, Carroll, and Belichick. They went to a Super Bowl pre BB and Brady. Maybe they won't have the same success but Keaft's a great owner who is committed to winning. 

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46 minutes ago, steadypimpin said:

What dynasty? The dynasty of being terrible???

this proves you dont even know sports history extensively

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25 minutes ago, lancerman said:

Since Kraft became an owner the coaches he had hired were Parcells, Carroll, and Belichick. They went to a Super Bowl pre BB and Brady. Maybe they won't have the same success but Keaft's a great owner who is committed to winning. 

Parcells and Belichick are two of the GOATS. You can't really expect the next HC to have the same success. It's possible sure but Kraft is just as likely to hire a dud then he is a competent coach.

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Just now, Trentwannabe said:

Parcells and Belichick are two of the GOATS. You can't really expect the next HC to have the same success. It's possible sure but Kraft is just as likely to hire a dud then he is a competent coach.

Still, I think it's easier to hire a good coach if you're a franchise with stable ownership and a track record of success. These things tend to snowball.

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28 minutes ago, lancerman said:

Since Kraft became an owner the coaches he had hired were Parcells, Carroll, and Belichick. They went to a Super Bowl pre BB and Brady. Maybe they won't have the same success but Keaft's a great owner who is committed to winning. 

who may well die soon. I mean,you know,that whole age catches up with you thing.

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