gopherwrestler Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, SemperFeist said: Darnold is certainly not the answer, but if you believe that Kyle Shanahan and Kevin O’Connell are the high level QB “gurus” that many give them credit for, then it says something about Darnold that both coaches have brought him in as insurance/backup for their young, or soon to be young QB. I didn’t think that an external bridge QB was necessarily a need. But the vitriol from some Vikings fans over the Darnold signing is crazy. I’d say Josh McCown probably was a big part of Darnold coming here also. Also the fact he was probably the best QB available on the market. He’s been thru systems, and has a coach on staff that has been with him. Comfort level has to be big I would imagine as a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesfan89 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 6 minutes ago, gopherwrestler said: I’d say Josh McCown probably was a big part of Darnold coming here also. Also the fact he was probably the best QB available on the market. He’s been thru systems, and has a coach on staff that has been with him. Comfort level has to be big I would imagine as a QB. And throwing to Justin jefferson can't hurt. This is a big opportunity for Darnold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywindO2 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, SemperFeist said: But the vitriol from some Vikings fans over the Darnold signing is crazy. Charch is especially unhinged right now and I'm here for it, he's so clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjfja_fkdldjs Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I'll ask some very generic questions. So, 3rd pick overall, what did people see in him back then and what didn't translate? Like what did he do poorly in the NFL that just made him a bust? Also, is there an actual reason people are holding out hope that he can still be more or is it just pre draft status? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 53 minutes ago, sjfja_fkdldjs said: I'll ask some very generic questions. So, 3rd pick overall, what did people see in him back then and what didn't translate? Like what did he do poorly in the NFL that just made him a bust? Also, is there an actual reason people are holding out hope that he can still be more or is it just pre draft status? Environment and support staff is probably the biggest reason Darnold didn’t live up to his potential. It takes a special makeup to be able to handle New York City, especially at the QB position. And quite frankly, I wonder if anyone can handle it. But I think it was incredibly tough to Darnold who was only 20 when he was drafted. The scrutiny from the New York media is relentless. And that issue was compounded by Adam Gase. Darnold had no chance with Gase as his coach. He was doomed from the start. But along with having to try and learn how to play QB with Gase as the coach, the Jets gave him nothing to work with on offense. And things didn’t get better when he was traded to Carolina where he had to deal with Matt Rhule as his head coach, who fired the OC mid season and replaced him with Ben McAdoo. Just a completely dysfunctional organization. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 If the Jets were smart, they should have just started McCown until Darnold was ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 17 hours ago, SemperFeist said: He’s in Green Bay As a coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 32 minutes ago, SteelKing728 said: If the Jets were smart, they should have just started McCown until Darnold was ready. The issue is that they bought into the hype that if you draft a guy that high he has to start right away...which I generally think it is an error in judgment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 11 hours ago, skywindO2 said: Charch is especially unhinged right now and I'm here for it, he's so clueless. Especially when I heard him last Friday...I can't quite remember who he was talking about, but I was flabbergasted about some of his comments, because they were just utterly wrong...while he's never been on the ball exactly, these comments were more wrong than anything I've ever heard him say. I was just dumbfounded...and wasn't sure he had ever even seen the guy he was talking about...or if he was just mistaking him for someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CriminalMind Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 3 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: So likely he sees the $10M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gopherwrestler Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 21 hours ago, SemperFeist said: It takes a special makeup to be able to handle New York City, especially at the QB position. And quite frankly, I wonder if anyone can handle it. But I think it was incredibly tough to Darnold who was only 20 when he was drafted. The scrutiny from the New York media is relentless. Honestly with the way it’s been, Eli Manning is really the only one to do it and I’m still not sure he would have lasted if he didn’t find himself into that first Super Bowl and his brother wasn’t Peyton. While Super Bowls can save a QB, he wasn’t the reason for that. He did get some remarks thru his career but if anyone else was put in those exact same shoes I don’t think they would have made it. but back to Darnold, while I don’t see him as any part of the future, there has to be a reason he was paid as much as he was. I thought I saw some comments that there was some staff throughout the league that still highly regard him. While I hope we can find a QBOTF, honestly I don’t think there was a real better option out there for a veteran. Probably the best chance for Darnold he’s ever had to succeed as a “starter”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 22 minutes ago, gopherwrestler said: Honestly with the way it’s been, Eli Manning is really the only one to do it... Namath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 6 minutes ago, vike daddy said: Namath. Man….. New York wasn’t the same when you were in your young adult years as it is now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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