everlong Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 With the Browns on pace for the second 0-16 season in league history, how do they compare to the 2008 Detroit Lions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 I feel like the browns are a better team they've just blown more leads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Both teams are at 5, 1-score losses. If Cleveland can play either of their last two close, than they'll be better than the Lions. They'll still have them beat in point differential more than likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Browns actually have a good run defense and aren't bad at running the ball either. Lions were the worst or near the worst in the NFL at just about anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 4 hours ago, OleXmad said: I feel like the browns are a better team they've just blown more leads. Yes...I still believe whatever happens in the last two weeks the 2008 Lions were worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 5 hours ago, PapaShogun said: Yes...I still believe whatever happens in the last two weeks the 2008 Lions were worse. It eventually worked out for the lions since they drafted Stafford after going 0-16, maybe the browns will luck out somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, OleXmad said: It eventually worked out for the lions since they drafted Stafford after going 0-16, maybe the browns will luck out somehow. Hue Jackson is their coach. They're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetzger Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2017 Browns: -11.1 Point Differential, -11.57 SRS, -28.5% DVOA 2008 Lions: -15.5 Point Differential, -13.11 SRS, -48.4% DVOA It's not particularly close. The Browns are bad, but they've played a lot of teams close and have lost two OT games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 9 hours ago, PapaShogun said: Hue Jackson is their coach. They're screwed. People love to hate on Hue Jackson but he's actually a good coach. It's just the browns making him look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 17 hours ago, OleXmad said: People love to hate on Hue Jackson but he's actually a good coach. It's just the browns making him look bad. No, he's really bad, he's a coordinator that needs elite talent in order to be successful, and couldn't inspire a fat kid to eat cake. As far as the comparison, the 2008 Lions were as a whole a bad team, the 17 Browns are a product of the most overrated coaching staff of all time, every guy on that staff literally is overrated. Except Blake Williams who does a really good job with our linebackers. Everyone else are duds who live off prior success from other teams, this team has plenty of talent to at least have 5 wins this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 6 hours ago, MSURacerDT55 said: No, he's really bad, he's a coordinator that needs elite talent in order to be successful, and couldn't inspire a fat kid to eat cake. As far as the comparison, the 2008 Lions were as a whole a bad team, the 17 Browns are a product of the most overrated coaching staff of all time, every guy on that staff literally is overrated. Except Blake Williams who does a really good job with our linebackers. Everyone else are duds who live off prior success from other teams, this team has plenty of talent to at least have 5 wins this year. Uh huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I don't follow the Browns too much since they are an AFC team, but one thing I will say about the 2008 Lions is that one good thing came out of the winless season - they were able to dump Matt Millen after that. Since then, they have been adding some good players and are definitely going in the right direction. I hope both of these teams can have success in the future because both of them have great, loyal fan bases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 19 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: I don't follow the Browns too much since they are an AFC team, but one thing I will say about the 2008 Lions is that one good thing came out of the winless season - they were able to dump Matt Millen after that. Since then, they have been adding some good players and are definitely going in the right direction. I hope both of these teams can have success in the future because both of them have great, loyal fan bases. that 0-16 season gave them a competent QB which has resulted in their relative success since. League working like it's designed to, right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpanosPayYourRent Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 How about the fact they walked out of the back of the end zone for a safety. Ha browns are definently better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevein2012 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 On 12/20/2017 at 4:01 PM, OleXmad said: People love to hate on Hue Jackson but he's actually a good coach. It's just the browns making him look bad. Regardless of the x's and o's part of coaching I don't see how anyone could think he's a good HC with the excuse making and throwing players under the bus he's done this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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