GB vs PHI : Post Game Recap

[Jaire_Island]

18 minutes ago, mikemike778 said:

I am struggling to get why people are angry at Nixon returning that kick.

With 27 seconds and no timeouts, the odds of a TD drive were extremely low. I had pretty much given up - it would have needed a miracle. Nixon has returned TDs (albeit with different rules) so I don't the issue with him giving him a go. 

Re Love.  Another concern with his injury is that he was pretty mediocre at best all game. This as almost certainly week 1 rust which Packers seem to specialise in.  Him missing time is really not going to help him shake it off.  There have to be concerns he takes multiple weeks once he is back, to get back to the level we need him at.

 

Eagles DC was nightmare if you are seeing him 1st time..

I also thought we ran pretty vanilla offense probably thinking we see them again in playoffs…

[HighCalebR]

7 minutes ago, mikemike778 said:

Maybe - I'd have given him a shot regardless. 

Maybe we should have done laterals or something on the return.  Teams normally resort to that on the last play when the other side are ready for it. Maybe doing it earlier might throw them.  Had to try something, we weren't going to score 'normally'.

 

 

 

We werent scoring on that play either. No momentum and no vision? No chance. Im fine with him returning under the right circumstance. This wasnt that.

Laterals are a worse idea than trying to get in position for a hail mary. 100%

4 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said:

GB fan obsession with Tannehill is just weird. Prior to the Love injury, coming to GB made no sense for Tannehill. Now that Love is diagnosed with a short term injury, it still doesn't.  I can at least understand the group that wanted to trade for someone like Heinicke rather than Willis.  I kind of agree with that group.

Playing football doesnt make sense for tannehill anymore.

[HighCalebR]

6 minutes ago, Jaire_Island said:

Eagles DC was nightmare if you are seeing him 1st time..

I also thought we ran pretty vanilla offense probably thinking we see them again in playoffs…

If Walker had remembered how to football, especially early on, maybe we score on one of those turnover opporunities. Then the game looks different.

 

Overall i wasnt that upset with the loss. We had 10 penalties and the turnover that turned into touchdowns while ours turned into field goals. Played high level football against a damn good team. With hindsight being 50/50 probably shouldve just sat love down that last drive with his cramping calf and slippery field. Oh well now we get to get scrubbed from the national media circuit for a bit.

[Leader]

14 minutes ago, mikemike778 said:

Maybe - I'd have given him a shot regardless. Maybe we should have done laterals or something on the return.  Teams normally resort to that on the last play when the other side are ready for it. Maybe doing it earlier might throw them.  Had to try something, we weren't going to score 'normally'.

IMO Nixon stood *zero* chance of breaking one. All he did was eat precious time. He still fell short of the 30 - which would have been the LOS if he'd downed the ball. With the vertical speed of our receivers, I'd have preferred giving all the time left to Love and the offense.

 

[Old Guy]

Reading reports it’s a 3-6 week injury.

[Mazrimiv]

33 minutes ago, Jaire_Island said:

Eagles DC was nightmare if you are seeing him 1st time..

I also thought we ran pretty vanilla offense probably thinking we see them again in playoffs…

You think MLF ran a vanilla offense in week 1 to guard against the possibility of seeing PHI in the playoffs 4 months from now?  That makes no sense.

MLF has acknowledged that PHI was doing things on defense that he wasn't expecting, and it caused significant problems for the GB running game in the first half.

[Brat&Beer]

27 minutes ago, Old Guy said:

Reading reports it’s a 3-6 week injury.

We won't know really until Love starts to practice how long it might be, given MLF's reluctance to discuss injuries. Aaron Nagler has a more pessimistic view, thinking it's likely to be half the season. Given how the Packers deal with injuries, he could be right. 

[Mazrimiv]

18 minutes ago, Brat&Beer said:

We won't know really until Love starts to practice how long it might be, given MLF's reluctance to discuss injuries. Aaron Nagler has a more pessimistic view, thinking it's likely to be half the season. Given how the Packers deal with injuries, he could be right. 

Nagler.  That checks out.

[Brat&Beer]

Packers PFF Grades:

Top 5 offense
1. RT Zach Tom: 92.0
2. WR Jayden Reed: 89.2
3. LG Elgton Jenkins: 78.4
4. RB Emanuel Wilson: 69.4
5. RG Jordan Morgan: 67.7

Tom didn’t give up a single pressure over 43 pass-blocking snaps and earned an elite run-blocking grade. Reed had a drop, but he also averaged 4.93 yards per route run, picked up 54 yards after the catch and had a 33-yard rushing touchdown. Jenkins didn’t allow a pressure in the passing game and was solid in the run game. Wilson had two runs over 10 yards, a tough catch for a first down and a solid block on Reed’s touchdown run. Morgan allowed a single quarterback hit over 19 pass-blocking snaps and was solid in the run game.

Top 5 defense

1. LB Edgerrin Cooper: 85.9
2. S Xavier McKinney: 76.2
3. LB Eric Stokes: 66.7
4. CB Keisean Nixon: 65.4
5. DE Lukas Van Ness: 65.3

Cooper had a run stop, a batted pass and three total tackles on only 11 snaps. McKinney intercepted a pass, gave up only one completion into his primary coverage and made four tackles without a miss. Stokes had a missed tackle but ended up giving up only two catches into his coverage. Nixon had a sack of Jalen Hurts, a pass breakup and two stops, but he gave up four catches and missed two tackles. Van Ness had one hurry and one run stop over 19 snaps.

Bottom 5 offense

1. TE Luke Musgrave: 43.8
2. WR Dontayvion Wicks: 44.0
3. C Josh Myers: 50.1
4. TE Tucker Kraft: 55.1
5. WR Christian Watson: 59.6

Musgrave ran eight routes but didn’t catch either target, and he was the target on Jordan Love’s interception. Wicks had a drop and was 0-for-3 catching his targets. Myers gave up two pressures, was penalized once and received average run-blocking grades. Kraft was solid as a run blocker, but his 30 routes run resulted in only two targets. Watson caught a touchdown, but he turned 28 routes and five targets into only 13 yards.

Bottom 5 defense

1. LB Isaiah McDuffie: 35.7
2. DL Kenny Clark: 39.4
3. DE Kingsley Enagbare: 41.3
4. DL Karl Brooks: 42.4
5. DL TJ Slaton: 42.7

McDuffie missed two tackles and gave up a touchdown pass from Jalen Hurts to Saquon Barkley. Clark had four hurries but earned terrible grades against the run. Enagbare didn’t have a pressure or a tackle over 30 total snaps. Brooks delivered a pressure and two stops but earned the team’s lowest run defense grade. Slaton had three assisted stops and a hurry but also received poor grades against the run.

Special teams
Edgerrin Cooper had a tackle covering a kickoff and was the highest rated special teams player. Zayne Anderson also had a tackle. The Packers didn’t miss a tackle on special teams, but Rasheed Walker, Xavier McKinney and Isaiah McDuffie all had penalties. Brayden Narveson missed a 43-yard field goal. Daniel Whelan put one punt out of bounds inside the 20 and another forced a fair catch — his net average was 37 yards.

Quarterback play
Jordan Love: 64.6
Malik Willis: 42.5

Love was credited with two “big-time throws” and two “turnover-worthy plays,” and he was hurt by three drops, two throws while being hit and three throwaways. His adjusted completion percentage was 69.0 on an average depth of target of almost 10 yards. Love did connect on 3-of-5 passes over 20 yards downfield, but he was just 2-for-8 in the intermediate areas. He was 3-for-10 — including the 70-yard touchdown pass — on 12 pressured dropbacks. Willis threw wildly incomplete on his first snap and was sacked before attempting a Hail Mary on his second and final snap.

Stat to know
Cornerback Jaire Alexander had an interception, but he also allowed four catches for 108 yards and was penalized for holding. A.J. Brown was responsible for all four catches against Alexander, including a game-changing 67-yard score early in the second half, creating a decisive win for the Eagles in this prim

[packfanfb]

39 minutes ago, Brat&Beer said:

We won't know really until Love starts to practice how long it might be, given MLF's reluctance to discuss injuries. Aaron Nagler has a more pessimistic view, thinking it's likely to be half the season. Given how the Packers deal with injuries, he could be right. 

QBs are treated differently. Rodgers played the entire season with an injury in 2018 that any other player would have probably been out weeks if not the season. 

I'll be very surprised if Love isn't playing Week 4 against Minnesota with a grade 1/2 sprain. 

If he truly is out 6 weeks, he might as well sit out the season because the season will effectively be over. 

[Tperk]

4 minutes ago, Brat&Beer said:

Packers PFF Grades:

Top 5 offense
1. RT Zach Tom: 92.0
2. WR Jayden Reed: 89.2
3. LG Elgton Jenkins: 78.4
4. RB Emanuel Wilson: 69.4
5. RG Jordan Morgan: 67.7

Tom didn’t give up a single pressure over 43 pass-blocking snaps and earned an elite run-blocking grade. Reed had a drop, but he also averaged 4.93 yards per route run, picked up 54 yards after the catch and had a 33-yard rushing touchdown. Jenkins didn’t allow a pressure in the passing game and was solid in the run game. Wilson had two runs over 10 yards, a tough catch for a first down and a solid block on Reed’s touchdown run. Morgan allowed a single quarterback hit over 19 pass-blocking snaps and was solid in the run game.

Top 5 defense

1. LB Edgerrin Cooper: 85.9
2. S Xavier McKinney: 76.2
3. LB Eric Stokes: 66.7
4. CB Keisean Nixon: 65.4
5. DE Lukas Van Ness: 65.3

Cooper had a run stop, a batted pass and three total tackles on only 11 snaps. McKinney intercepted a pass, gave up only one completion into his primary coverage and made four tackles without a miss. Stokes had a missed tackle but ended up giving up only two catches into his coverage. Nixon had a sack of Jalen Hurts, a pass breakup and two stops, but he gave up four catches and missed two tackles. Van Ness had one hurry and one run stop over 19 snaps.

Bottom 5 offense

1. TE Luke Musgrave: 43.8
2. WR Dontayvion Wicks: 44.0
3. C Josh Myers: 50.1
4. TE Tucker Kraft: 55.1
5. WR Christian Watson: 59.6

Musgrave ran eight routes but didn’t catch either target, and he was the target on Jordan Love’s interception. Wicks had a drop and was 0-for-3 catching his targets. Myers gave up two pressures, was penalized once and received average run-blocking grades. Kraft was solid as a run blocker, but his 30 routes run resulted in only two targets. Watson caught a touchdown, but he turned 28 routes and five targets into only 13 yards.

Bottom 5 defense

1. LB Isaiah McDuffie: 35.7
2. DL Kenny Clark: 39.4
3. DE Kingsley Enagbare: 41.3
4. DL Karl Brooks: 42.4
5. DL TJ Slaton: 42.7

McDuffie missed two tackles and gave up a touchdown pass from Jalen Hurts to Saquon Barkley. Clark had four hurries but earned terrible grades against the run. Enagbare didn’t have a pressure or a tackle over 30 total snaps. Brooks delivered a pressure and two stops but earned the team’s lowest run defense grade. Slaton had three assisted stops and a hurry but also received poor grades against the run.

Special teams
Edgerrin Cooper had a tackle covering a kickoff and was the highest rated special teams player. Zayne Anderson also had a tackle. The Packers didn’t miss a tackle on special teams, but Rasheed Walker, Xavier McKinney and Isaiah McDuffie all had penalties. Brayden Narveson missed a 43-yard field goal. Daniel Whelan put one punt out of bounds inside the 20 and another forced a fair catch — his net average was 37 yards.

Quarterback play
Jordan Love: 64.6
Malik Willis: 42.5

Love was credited with two “big-time throws” and two “turnover-worthy plays,” and he was hurt by three drops, two throws while being hit and three throwaways. His adjusted completion percentage was 69.0 on an average depth of target of almost 10 yards. Love did connect on 3-of-5 passes over 20 yards downfield, but he was just 2-for-8 in the intermediate areas. He was 3-for-10 — including the 70-yard touchdown pass — on 12 pressured dropbacks. Willis threw wildly incomplete on his first snap and was sacked before attempting a Hail Mary on his second and final snap.

Stat to know
Cornerback Jaire Alexander had an interception, but he also allowed four catches for 108 yards and was penalized for holding. A.J. Brown was responsible for all four catches against Alexander, including a game-changing 67-yard score early in the second half, creating a decisive win for the Eagles in this prim

Any idea what Gary graded out as in game one? I know he had a sack and knocked down a pass, but don't remember seeing much from him besides those 2 plays.

[Mazrimiv]

Every time RB Wilson plays, he makes me look dumber for thinking he wouldn't make the 53.   He's legit.

[CWood21]

16 minutes ago, packfanfb said:

I'll be very surprised if Love isn't playing Week 4 against Minnesota with a grade 1/2 sprain. 

That's where my train of thought is until something changes.  I'd be very surprised if he didn't miss at least 1 or 2 games, but they'll likely brace his knee up and run him out there in a few weeks barring a setback.

[packfanfb]

Wonder how long it's going to take for Hafley to figure out that Quay isn't an MLB. One problem is that we don't have a true MLB on the team but I'd probably give Hopper or even Wilson a shot. Quay has instincts like my 6 year daughter. 

Also, hopefully it doesn't take more than one game to realize that Cooper needs more snaps and McDuffie fewer. 

[CWood21]

3 minutes ago, packfanfb said:

Also, hopefully it doesn't take more than one game to realize that Cooper needs more snaps and McDuffie fewer. 

If it wasn't for the injury, I'd venture a guess he'd be a "starter" by snap count.