Old Guy Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 32 minutes ago, Brat&Beer said: Packers PFF Grades: Top 5 offense 1. RT Zach Tom: 92.0 2. WR Jayden Reed: 89.2 3. LG Elgton Jenkins: 78.4 4. RB Emanuel Wilson: 69.4 5. RG Jordan Morgan: 67.7 Tom didn’t give up a single pressure over 43 pass-blocking snaps and earned an elite run-blocking grade. Reed had a drop, but he also averaged 4.93 yards per route run, picked up 54 yards after the catch and had a 33-yard rushing touchdown. Jenkins didn’t allow a pressure in the passing game and was solid in the run game. Wilson had two runs over 10 yards, a tough catch for a first down and a solid block on Reed’s touchdown run. Morgan allowed a single quarterback hit over 19 pass-blocking snaps and was solid in the run game. Top 5 defense 1. LB Edgerrin Cooper: 85.9 2. S Xavier McKinney: 76.2 3. LB Eric Stokes: 66.7 4. CB Keisean Nixon: 65.4 5. DE Lukas Van Ness: 65.3 Cooper had a run stop, a batted pass and three total tackles on only 11 snaps. McKinney intercepted a pass, gave up only one completion into his primary coverage and made four tackles without a miss. Stokes had a missed tackle but ended up giving up only two catches into his coverage. Nixon had a sack of Jalen Hurts, a pass breakup and two stops, but he gave up four catches and missed two tackles. Van Ness had one hurry and one run stop over 19 snaps. Bottom 5 offense 1. TE Luke Musgrave: 43.8 2. WR Dontayvion Wicks: 44.0 3. C Josh Myers: 50.1 4. TE Tucker Kraft: 55.1 5. WR Christian Watson: 59.6 Musgrave ran eight routes but didn’t catch either target, and he was the target on Jordan Love’s interception. Wicks had a drop and was 0-for-3 catching his targets. Myers gave up two pressures, was penalized once and received average run-blocking grades. Kraft was solid as a run blocker, but his 30 routes run resulted in only two targets. Watson caught a touchdown, but he turned 28 routes and five targets into only 13 yards. Bottom 5 defense 1. LB Isaiah McDuffie: 35.7 2. DL Kenny Clark: 39.4 3. DE Kingsley Enagbare: 41.3 4. DL Karl Brooks: 42.4 5. DL TJ Slaton: 42.7 McDuffie missed two tackles and gave up a touchdown pass from Jalen Hurts to Saquon Barkley. Clark had four hurries but earned terrible grades against the run. Enagbare didn’t have a pressure or a tackle over 30 total snaps. Brooks delivered a pressure and two stops but earned the team’s lowest run defense grade. Slaton had three assisted stops and a hurry but also received poor grades against the run. Special teams Edgerrin Cooper had a tackle covering a kickoff and was the highest rated special teams player. Zayne Anderson also had a tackle. The Packers didn’t miss a tackle on special teams, but Rasheed Walker, Xavier McKinney and Isaiah McDuffie all had penalties. Brayden Narveson missed a 43-yard field goal. Daniel Whelan put one punt out of bounds inside the 20 and another forced a fair catch — his net average was 37 yards. Quarterback play Jordan Love: 64.6 Malik Willis: 42.5 Love was credited with two “big-time throws” and two “turnover-worthy plays,” and he was hurt by three drops, two throws while being hit and three throwaways. His adjusted completion percentage was 69.0 on an average depth of target of almost 10 yards. Love did connect on 3-of-5 passes over 20 yards downfield, but he was just 2-for-8 in the intermediate areas. He was 3-for-10 — including the 70-yard touchdown pass — on 12 pressured dropbacks. Willis threw wildly incomplete on his first snap and was sacked before attempting a Hail Mary on his second and final snap. Stat to know Cornerback Jaire Alexander had an interception, but he also allowed four catches for 108 yards and was penalized for holding. A.J. Brown was responsible for all four catches against Alexander, including a game-changing 67-yard score early in the second half, creating a decisive win for the Eagles in this prim This seems pretty accurate according to my amateur eye test watching the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Between Cooper, Hopper and Quay are any of them viewed as a "natural" fits at MLB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Just now, Mazrimiv said: Between Cooper, Hopper and Quay are any of them viewed as a "natural" fits at MLB? No. If I had to go with one, it would probably be Hopper. From day one Quay was supposed to be the Will LB in Hafley's defense. Not sure why they didn't stick to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 1 minute ago, Mazrimiv said: Between Cooper, Hopper and Quay are any of them viewed as a "natural" fits at MLB? I don't think that is the best position for Cooper or Quay, not sure about Hopper. If he is, then he needs to change his name to Hooper. Cooper, Hooper and Quay has a much better ring to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 It was a tough assignment all night on defense against mobile Hurts and co., but our $20m guys, Clark, Gary and Jaire all need to be better. Moreover I hated seeing Gary exclusively line up over Lane Johnson all night. He's your best rusher, maybe move him around a bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 15 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said: Between Cooper, Hopper and Quay are any of them viewed as a "natural" fits at MLB? I've never thought Quay was stout against runs between the tackles...but it might be a figment of my imagination in that he's tied with Bullard as leading tackler in the Philly game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 7 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Moreover I hated seeing Gary exclusively line up over Lane Johnson all night. He's your best rusher, maybe move him around a bit? It's not like he wasn't effective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 44 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said: Every time RB Wilson plays, he makes me look dumber for thinking he wouldn't make the 53. He's legit. His vision and decisiveness really seem to have really improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zycho32 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 10 minutes ago, packfanfb said: It was a tough assignment all night on defense against mobile Hurts and co., but our $20m guys, Clark, Gary and Jaire all need to be better. Moreover I hated seeing Gary exclusively line up over Lane Johnson all night. He's your best rusher, maybe move him around a bit? That was kind of a holdover from the Joe Barry era as well; our Edge Rushers stayed on the edge, and for that matter always on a set side. Gary/Enegbare on the left, Smith/Van Ness on the right. I'm not sure how effective shuffling the DL around is going to be in generating pressure; seems like we're a collection of 'B/B+' talents there with nothing standing out enough. The best examples of the tactic working tended to involve 'elite' level players... but I imagine somebody's gonna chime in on some second-tier guy who's used effectively in that manner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopackgonerd Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 (edited) Low grades from the DL is really disappointing, especially Clark/Slaton. Our DL and EDGE players really hindered what we wanted to do on defense. I think Cooper just has to see a lot more snaps after this game, get the dynamic athletes on the field. McDuffie is a high moter player but the guy shouldn't be a starter rn. Quay not figuring things out is disappointing, if you can't fill your gaps in the run game, we're going to get gashed a LOT. Though i doubt they're not going to move him anytime soon. I'm really curious to see how Hafley adjusts his defense this week. This is going to say a lot about who he is and if he can make changes week to week to make our defense better. Hopefully a lot of it is the starters not getting a lot of time in game action with the new scheme either which caused a lot of miscues in coverage. Edited September 8 by Gopackgonerd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 I think the run fits with the new defense may still be a work in progress. On Barkley's 34 yards run, Quay appeared to be in perfect position to make the play but Kenny Clark was in his way. Problem was Clark got turned so his back was to the runner. He basically acted as a blocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Aaron Nagler - One of the things that stood out re-watching the game: Packers need the guys who they’re paying like stars to play like stars. Need better from Love, Jaire, Kenny, Preston and Rashan. Of the guys counting 10+ mil against the cap in ‘24, Elgton had the lone good game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatKing Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 34 minutes ago, Leader said: I've never thought Quay was stout against runs between the tackles...but it might be a figment of my imagination in that he's tied with Bullard as leading tackler in the Philly game. Quay is so frustrating to watch. You cannot deny his athleticism, dude just flies around the field but it doesn't seem like he has the right instincts to be a linebacker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Leader said: Aaron Nagler - One of the things that stood out re-watching the game: Packers need the guys who they’re paying like stars to play like stars. Need better from Love, Jaire, Kenny, Preston and Rashan. Of the guys counting 10+ mil against the cap in ‘24, Elgton had the lone good game. I've always felt during the MLF tenure that starters need to play more in preseason. That includes veteran players (see above), but matters even more with young players. Yes, they might get injured, that is always the reason quoted for them not playing in preseason, but poor starts to the season seems to be an every season thing - it needs adjustment. You can use the Packers being a young team for an excuse/reason for their poor early season play if you want, but that is even more reason to give more in-game reps in preseason games. It wouldn't have hurt to play our ones when Buffalo's ones were on the field, in preseason game 2. Edited September 8 by OneTwoSixFive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACKRULE Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 1 hour ago, packfanfb said: Wonder how long it's going to take for Hafley to figure out that Quay isn't an MLB. One problem is that we don't have a true MLB on the team but I'd probably give Hopper or even Wilson a shot. Quay has instincts like my 6 year daughter. Also, hopefully it doesn't take more than one game to realize that Cooper needs more snaps and McDuffie fewer. He played better when cooper was in there that is one thing i noticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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