Pugger Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Leader said: It seems like our players get worse the longer they are under the "guidance" of our defensive coaches so who really knows where they are trending. 😟 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15412 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 On 12/20/2023 at 9:48 AM, Leader said: I'm no capologist but can we cut Campbell with the hit we'd take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat&Beer Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, 15412 said: I believe they'd save about 2.8 million on the cap and have 11.6 million dead cap if they cut him. Would have to cut him by 3rd day of new league year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minnypackerfan Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 43 minutes ago, Pugger said: It seems like our players get worse the longer they are under the "guidance" of our defensive coaches so who really knows where they are trending. 😟 Wish he was progressing better, but I think he is really playing out of position. His traits say he should be a 4-3 outside linebacker as that would simplify his decision making. The way our defense is structured the inside linebackers have to make instantaneous decisions whether its a run or pass and then decide which gap they need to be in and fill really hard on running plays. They can't be caught waiting on the guard to come through the hole or else the play goes for 5 yards. Unfortunately, if they are wrong, that opens up the passing lanes or if they fill the wrong gap, the running back is off to the races until he gets to the safety level. If he were in the 4-3 outside linebacker role, you would see if athletic traits on display in a more beneficial way. The decisions would not be as complex. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Pugger said: It seems like our players get worse the longer they are under the "guidance" of our defensive coaches so who really knows where they are trending. 😟 Quay's no rocket surgeon, so they should be making the game as easy as possible for him. Not sure he's the one out there that should have the green dot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Pugger said: It seems like our players get worse the longer they are under the "guidance" of our defensive coaches so who really knows where they are trending. 😟 When you neuter a dog, or dawg, their behavior changes. Barry neuters his guys with his defense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, vegas492 said: When you neuter a dog, or dawg, their behavior changes. Barry neuters his guys with his defense. I think so as well. Pretty sure that If you asked those players they would tell you that they want to be aggressive. This scheme is anti aggressive most often. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: I think so as well. Pretty sure that If you asked those players they would tell you that they want to be aggressive. This scheme is anti aggressive most often. It's tough to try to figure out what those players want. But I feel like the higher end players want to be aggressive. I'll bet JA wants to be aggressive. Same for Quay. Feeling like Clark would love to be more aggressive on the DL. Not sure about our EDGE guys, seems like their whole job is to be aggressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Our edge players are aggressive to a fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, Mazrimiv said: Our edge players are aggressive to a fault. True .. don't hear them grumbling very often. LB's and DB's are a different story. They get hung out to dry so often it seems with ridiculously large holes in the zones and all the way off coverages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgwingman Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 20 hours ago, Pugger said: I posted this in another thread but I'll repeat it here: I do not want to be the #7 seed. I have no desire to go to Dallas in the WC round and get blasted by MM and the freaking Cowboys in Dallas. I seriously doubt Philly will get the #2 seed this year. IMO we are still a year away from being a real playoff team so it won't break my heart if we miss getting in. I get that sentiment, but I still think a young team like this benefits from playoff experience. Even if (maybe even especially if) it's an embarrassing playoff loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtsportsfan1 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 44 minutes ago, pgwingman said: I get that sentiment, but I still think a young team like this benefits from playoff experience. Even if (maybe even especially if) it's an embarrassing playoff loss. I'm torn on this one. I see your point about play off experience, not sure if getting your butt kicked is so great , but it is experience ! On the other hand , we do need a infusion of talent . That being said , finishing around .500 isn't exactly going to net top tier talent . I'd probably still lean to higher draft pick and ensuring that Barry doesn't return! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 This fear of the playoffs is dumb. Making the playoffs is always better for the team than not making the playoffs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 19 hours ago, vegas492 said: It's tough to try to figure out what those players want. But I feel like the higher end players want to be aggressive. I'll bet JA wants to be aggressive. Same for Quay. Feeling like Clark would love to be more aggressive on the DL. Not sure about our EDGE guys, seems like their whole job is to be aggressive. Savage, who likes to play downhill, is a fish out of water in Barry's scheme. Savage has other shortcomings, but he could be a serviceable guy in the right scheme. If you play defense in the NFL, your nature is to want to be aggressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Mazrimiv said: This fear of the playoffs is dumb. Making the playoffs is always better for the team than not making the playoffs. The benefit or making the playoffs is not worth the possibility that Joe Barry is brought back as a result of it. Not even for this young team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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