Mind Character Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 The leadership void created from the trading of Demario Davis for Calvin Pryor (now out of the league) and the release of Joe Haden was a shock to the system in Berea as both players were the one's responsible for organizing defensive meetings, film sessions, breakdown huddles post practice, and driving the spirit of work and competition in practice and in the weight room. We all know Joe's injury history, but few really thought much of Demario's on field impact. Their departure left Christian Kirksey, Jamar Taylor, and Danny Shelton as the primary leaders on a young team. On the season, Todd Bowles credited Demario for changing the expectations and culture of the Jets defense for this year and called Davis "our culture leader." Davis was too bulky in the 34 scheme so he cut 17 pounds and came back to Cleveland a different athlete more suitable for the 43. Schobert had a good year and was named to the pro-bowl, but graded out 23 spots lower and 10 pts lower than Davis due to missed tackles, issues in pass coverage, issues with run fits, and less impact plays and TFLs. ========================================================== https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/joe-schobert/10733 Joe Schobert 2017 PFF Grades Overall 77.4 #32 LB TCKL 144 SCK 3.0 FF 3 INT 1 TFLs 5 ------------------------------------ https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/demario-davis/7079 Demario Davis 2017 PFF Grades Overall 87.3 #9 LB TCKL 135 SCK 5.0 FF 0 INT 0 TFLs 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 They’re pretty much the same player. Davis is much more polished. Both are compete stiffs in pass coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I’ll take the 2nd year pro bowler who’s super athletic and is cheap as hell and will probably get better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, mistakey said: I’ll take the 2nd year pro bowler who’s super athletic and is cheap as hell and will probably get better that is a great sentence to drive home your point. well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I'll take Schobert. Davis was average at best during his time here, while Schobert was above average. Davis definitely had a good season, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 The Jets also have a more experienced, and arguably talented, defense around Davis as well. They also finished 24th in PPG and 28th in YPG, so it’s not as if he was leading the ‘85 Bears. I’d also like to have seen Davis trying to play in space the way Schobert was this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Johnson Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I'm in the minority opinion that JoeScho is somewhat overrated and thought we would have definitely been better with Davis. But we were so terrible anyway though and I prefer Schobert going forward. He may be pretty athletic but he's not good in coverage and undersized in a way that can't change in the weight room. I think he could be D'qwell Jackson level and he was pretty good, I think standing 8-9 yards back inflated his tackling stats a lot but he came downhill great on the outside runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Let's see, do we want: A guy with almost identical production as Schobert, who is older, has less upside, and costs more OR A guy who is under 25 who came in leaner, more athletic, and was a Pro Bowl alternate this year that costs a lot less The Browns have made some BAD personnel decisions, but this isn't one of them and I can't believe anyone would argue differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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