ny92mike Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 20 minutes ago, MKnight82 said: 1000 points is the #16 pick in the draft. That's too high, you have to understand people on this website are obsessed with the draft and seriously overvalue draft picks. No one will ever make a deal for that much. Sorry I miskpoke it should be 590 not 560. 590 points is first round value (#32 overall). That's just a minimum, obviously more can be traded. You deterrent only hampers teams with low cap, plenty of teams have tons of cap space. One week should be enough. I would consider lowering the points required to meet you somewhere in the 800 range but not willing to move from the 3rd round. Again, I don't like the idea of teams trading tagged players because it just opens the door to allowing restricted free agents, erfa and eventually UFA. Teams are supposed to be operating under good faith, which if you offer a player a contract that you have every intention of retaining that player for the full year. You're asking me to strike a rule that shouldn't be removed because it opens up all kinds of other issues, with teams tagging players to just use them as trade bait and if we allow tagged players this option why not allow rfa the same luxury. It just creates more problems than its worth. I get it, you want to get something for Kirk and the only way to do that is to tag him. I just don't agree with allowing it. I'm willing to flex a little on this but because I'm against the idea of it as I don't feel that the tag was created for what you are trying to use it as I want to discourage teams from going this route. Yes I agree that the rule hurts teams with less cap, but if you tagged him you should be willing to carry the cap for the duration of the season, otherwise you're tagging a player with the intention of trading him which goes against good faith negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, jch1911 said: Uhh... I have traded Clowney pretty much every year of TCMD... that trade was not ridiculous (and once both sides explained the logic... it made more sense to all IIRC) Now when I acquired Earl Thomas from the Seahawks... that trade was ridiculous (but at that point we had all dissolved into a pit of madness) Not ridiculous in trade value. Ridiculous as in it would never happen IRL. People are are crapping all over trading franchised players for saying it isn't "realistic". Well whether something is realistic is subjective to everyone's interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, ny92jefferis said: I would consider lowering the points required to meet you somewhere in the 800 range but not willing to move from the 3rd round. Ok keep the 3rd round FA rule but you gotta come down to 590. Teams have to be willing to negotiate deals. That asking minimum is too high. 3 minutes ago, ny92jefferis said: You're asking me to strike a rule that shouldn't be removed because it opens up all kinds of other issues, with teams tagging players to just use them as trade bait and if we allow tagged players this option why not allow rfa the same luxury. It just creates more problems than its worth. It happens IRL though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 And IRL the Redskins just traded for Alex Smith. FML i hate everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jch1911 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, MKnight82 said: And IRL the Redskins just traded for Alex Smith. FML i hate everything. Hahahahaahahahaahahaaha Also, rosters are not locked yet IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 Guess that resolves that issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, jch1911 said: Hahahahaahahahaahahaaha Also, rosters are not locked yet IIRC LOCK THEM NOW I DONT WANT ALEX FFREAKING SMITH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, ny92jefferis said: Guess that resolves that issue. It resolves nothing. I'm tagging Cousins. Also other teams should be able to trade tagged players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, MKnight82 said: It resolves nothing. I'm tagging Cousins. Also other teams should be able to trade tagged players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 This is kind of ridiculous lol Feel like we should keep this realistic and put Alex Smith on the Skins and move Cousins to FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Just now, ny92jefferis said: I'll straight cut him. I don't even care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 16 minutes ago, MKnight82 said: Ok keep the 3rd round FA rule but you gotta come down to 590. Teams have to be willing to negotiate deals. That asking minimum is too high. It happens IRL though. This should be the final resolution. This is a good plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 In light of recent news, the original rule of no tag and trades is reinstated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jch1911 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, NickChowaniec said: This is kind of ridiculous lol Feel like we should keep this realistic and put Alex Smith on the Skins and move Cousins to FA. Rosters were not locking until AFTER SB If Washington still wants to tag and trade Cousins and take that cap hit... their call If Washington wants to cut Alex Smith, more power to them But actions have consequences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Cousins can' be traded IRL until the league year starts in mid March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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