Justone2 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Just now, Forge said: Crowell I'm probably going to pass on given that I acquired Gillislee earlier for a trade down of 6th rounders. McKinnon is in the discussion as a pass catching back, however. Clayborn is super pricey right now for a guy I'm not sold on. He's had a lot of trouble staying healthy, and while he had 9.5 sacks last year, 6 came in one game. Right now, I'd have to offer him in the realm of 4/60. Todd Davis is actually an interesting guy. I may have to look into that. I had someone else pegged at that position, but Davis is a little cheaper Yeah didn't really look at price for Clayborn but that realm is where i would be too. I forgot you got Gillislee so Crowell would be off my list then yeah. Davis is a guy that isn't the fastest but i like his instincts and he can lay some wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 At linebacker, there are some interesting guys - Anthony Hitchens. Great against the run, probably slides into a MLB role as he's not ideal in coverage and isn't much of a pass rusher. Todd Davis. Kind of the same role as Hitchens, but slightly cheaper, but also maybe not as good. Both are probably 2 down linebackers. Demario Davis is a little older, but he's still out there, as is Avery Williamson, who I'm not a huge fan of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 Cornerback is also a very intriguing market - Brent Grimes available on a 1 year deal. Trumaine Johnson is still out there (surprisingly bypassed in the first round of FA for Butler / Fuller by most people). Aaron Colvin (question becomes whether he can play outside and not just the slot). EJ Gaines (pricey at over 12 million per year right now) Baushaud Breeland (priced well, but he's probably a guy that would benefit to moving into the slot, so my interest in him is somewhat lukewarm) Vontae Davis (he's actually super cheap, but given the blind market strategy of FA, its very possible that he gets a decent deal above what his asking point is in this ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 22, 2018 Author Share Posted February 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, Forge said: At linebacker, there are some interesting guys - Anthony Hitchens. Great against the run, probably slides into a MLB role as he's not ideal in coverage and isn't much of a pass rusher. Todd Davis. Kind of the same role as Hitchens, but slightly cheaper, but also maybe not as good. Both are probably 2 down linebackers. Demario Davis is a little older, but he's still out there, as is Avery Williamson, who I'm not a huge fan of. Also, one guy that super intrigues me, also from Denver - Corey Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justone2 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, Forge said: Cornerback is also a very intriguing market - Brent Grimes available on a 1 year deal. Trumaine Johnson is still out there (surprisingly bypassed in the first round of FA for Butler / Fuller by most people). Aaron Colvin (question becomes whether he can play outside and not just the slot). EJ Gaines (pricey at over 12 million per year right now) Baushaud Breeland (priced well, but he's probably a guy that would benefit to moving into the slot, so my interest in him is somewhat lukewarm) Vontae Davis (he's actually super cheap, but given the blind market strategy of FA, its very possible that he gets a decent deal above what his asking point is in this ) Colvin and Breeland would be a no for me with Ward and Williams who i feel both are already decent enough options in the slot. Grimes, Johnson, Gaines and Davis are all good by me. With Grimes it means you probably have to draft a corner to groom behind him. Besides that at ILB Korey Toomer can be interesting for later. I feel his price right now is too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 Round 2 of free agency completed, and we garnered all of our targets. First up, we signed Brent Grimes on a 1 year deal for about 6 million. Even in the dumpster fire that was Tampa's defense last year, Grimes still acquitted himself very well. I definitely wanted a veteran across from Spoon, as the thought of two young guys worried me a bit. My plan is still to draft a corner in the middle rounds, maybe someone like Meeks, who can sit and learn for a year and get some reps in here and there. Grimes adds a guy with some consistent ball skills, which I feel like we haven't had for a while - last year was the first year he didn't have at least 4 INT since 2012 (he had 3 last year) . Just for good measure, I also signed Ross Cockrell to a long term deal (5 years, really a 2 year pact). It's a little pricey at about 8 per, but I comped him out similar to Dre Kirkpatrick, who was a year older when he hit FA, and also more notable as a zone corner. Kirkpatrick got 52 for 5, so I had to be willing to let go of some cash here. There were better options available, but I didn't feel that they were worth the extra money. EJ Gaines has had trouble staying healthy throughout his career, he's on the smallish side. Like Cockrell, he had the best of it in zone (though he's a little more flexible in man coverage). But he also went 13m per year for 5 years. Trumaine Johnson was available, but I would have had to pay out almost 17 million per year, and he's already 28, so I had to pass there. Vontae Davis was a consideration as a cheaper option, but I didn't want to have two aging corners that may be gone next year, plus he has injury issues of his own. Patrick Robinson is 30 and wanted over 10 million per season. The good: I feel that he's an ascending talent, getting better with each passing year, and he's only 26. He's had a long road, but he's worked himself into a reliable corner. Smart, and he's a zone coverage specialist guy, which will fit great into Saleh's system. The not so good: he's flat out terrible in man coverage. Huge disparity between how he plays in each scheme. Given that we employ a lot more zone under Saleh then we did in the previous years, I'm not overly concerned about that, but it's something to be wary of. Finally, we signed Corey Nelson from Denver. He's a middle linebacker / sam type. He's been very solid in coverage in limited time (his most playing time came in 2016), and he's good on special teams. I decided to go this route rather than re-sign Brock Coyle since Nelson is younger, cheaper (I got him for 800K in years 1 and 2), and better in coverage. Also, re-signed Marsh. I really didn't have any feeling on this one way or the other, but since we did it in real life, I went ahead and did it. I got him much cheaper, however, at under 1m each year of a 2 year deal. Unfortunately, with the influx of CB talent coming in, I had to move off someone, and for me, that was pretty easy to pick whom. Unfortunately, I had to make my first "mock responsible" trade and get rid of Jimmie Ward for basically peanuts. Because I can't extend him for anything less than 10 million per season (not happening) and he's a FA after the year is over, and I can't trust him to stay healthy for the season, I dumped him for Caleb Benenoch to slide into our swing tackle spot. There weren't many other options available, and the ones that were got way more money than I wanted to spend (Seantrel Henderson signed for nearly 5m / year, which is just too much for a back up tackle who's next suspension is for a year). Benenoch is on the third year of a rookie deal, so we get him cheap for 2 years. Coming out, he was a guy that had some decent athleticism, but was weak, much better suited for a zone scheme, so I'm hoping that a change to Shanny's outside zone will make him a passable offensive lineman. Unlikely to happen, but I wanted to get something for Ward, and nobody was offering much in the way of picks, so I'll take the extra cap space and the young tackle and move forward. None of the other guys I was considering signing this round got signed, so I still have targets available for round 3. In the meantime, we have also released Zane Beadles. Haven't done much in the way of cuts this season as there hasn't been much reason to. The top 4 most likely were Aldrick / Zane / Dumervil and Ward. The first two I cut, Ward was traded, and I'll hold on to Dumervil unless i get an upgrade at the pass rushing position. He did somehow manage 6.5 sacks last year playing less than half the defensive snaps, I think. He'd be a good mentor for a young pass rusher, which is what it looks like I'm going to have to do in order to add some talent there (along with Kikaha) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissooner49er Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Yippee! He cut Beadles! Would love to have Kikaha as a 9er, in real life, too. Edit: and Moncrief! Might want to add this to your resume, Forge. Start applying for GM openings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 23, 2018 Author Share Posted February 23, 2018 Having a tough time deciding whether or not to go after a running back this round. I really like what I saw from Joe Williams (granted against scrubs) in the way that he ran the football (it's everything else I don't like). Obviously, I'm comfortable with Breida. We traded for Gillislee who can be a short yardage back and offer some upside as a prominent runner (and if he stinks up the joint, he can be cut for nothing). Dion Lewis is super affordable this round (6+ million, 2 years), but I don't know that we actually need him. There are other running backs I can get much cheaper to play a niche role in the offense - Jamaal Charles on a one year deal as a pass catching specialist. Shane Vereen on 1-2 years for the same role (McKinnon is still too expensive for this type of role). So I'm debating on going with a feature back, or a niche role back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 Well, had a trade for Justin Houston but he can't be traded in the mock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 Round three of FA in the book. Signed all three of our targets. First signing, Dion Lewis. 2 year deal, 13 mil. Lewis is a big favorite of mine this fa, so he's a guy I definitely wanted to target at some point. More than we really have to spend on a quality back, but short term and minimum risk. Second signing, Anthony Hitchens. Paid more than he's probably worth as a two down backer. Probably playing in the middle. Will help out a lot with the run. Gave him a 5 year deal, but have no issues getting out of it in year 3. He's only 25 I think. Gave him a little over 7/apy, but only 4.5 in year one with a big increase in year two and three Also signed quarterback Joe Callahan. Just a camp body to compete with beat hard. 2 year deal, just above min, nothing guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2lamanaki Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Not gonna lie, Hitchens is one of the top guys I've got my eye on this offseason. Would love him and Lewis in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Not much to report. Yesterday was round 4 of free agency. I put in three non-guaranteed, minimum salary bids on roster competition guys. We lost out on Travis Rudolph and Pierre Desire, unfortunately. The only person we signed was Mike Matthews at Center, who would most likely be a long shot to make the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 we are otc in the first round - Nelson, James, Edmonds, Roquan are all gone. Debating Minkah, Denzel Ward, Landry at this pick. Anyone have a preference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John232 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Forge said: we are otc in the first round - Nelson, James, Edmonds, Roquan are all gone. Debating Minkah, Denzel Ward, Landry at this pick. Anyone have a preference? Do you guys allow trade backs? I'd probably go Landry, but MInkah is super tempting. Denzel ward wouldn't be awful, but not a huge fan of him. Davenport, LVE, Wynn, James Daniels, Lorenzo Carter could all be options, especially at a trade back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 Just now, John232 said: Do you guys allow trade backs? I'd probably go Landry, but MInkah is super tempting. Denzel ward wouldn't be awful, but not a huge fan of him. Davenport, LVE, Wynn, James Daniels, Lorenzo Carter could all be options, especially at a trade back. We are allowed to trade back, but Dallas decided to give up more and get to #9 rather than #10 (draft order was determined before the flip). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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