Arthur Penske Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Tperk said: DeFillipo is gone in MN....http://www.fox9.com/sports/vikings/report-vikings-fire-offensive-coordinator-john-defilippo?fbclid=IwAR2D1FnbQoCfcDGDHIGmZL0Wf1ffNURKSWQ2UCmzQ8Gsw4SetCeurJ3LYa8 From HC candidate for some to canned as OC in just a few weeks. zimmer has kind of run through OCs pretty fast over there in MN. Edited December 11, 2018 by Arthur Penske Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Arthur Penske said: From HC candidate for some to canned as OC in just a few weeks. zimmer has kind of run through OCs pretty fast over there in MN. Still don't think Zimmer has what it take ls to lead a SB team. Too old school at this point IMO. Ideal coordinator type though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Arthur Penske said: From HC candidate for some to canned as OC in just a few weeks. zimmer has kind of run through OCs pretty fast over there in MN. He's had Norv Turner, Pat Shurmur and DeFilippo. Turners offense is so outdated, he resigned halfway through the year making way for Shurmur. Shurmur was great last year and got a HC gig. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Still don't think Zimmer has what it take ls to lead a SB team. Too old school at this point IMO. Ideal coordinator type though. Zimmers problem is that whenever he gets a successful offense, that OC will leave for a HC gig. Hard to maintain that side of the ball. I'm sure most defensive minded coaches must deal with this. Edited December 12, 2018 by vikingsrule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: Zimmers problem is that whenever he gets a successful offense, that OC will leave for a HC gig. Hard to maintain that side of the ball. I'm sure most defensive minded coaches must deal with this. He's also just TOO straightforward. Need to be a little conniving to be really good in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 3 hours ago, incognito_man said: He's also just TOO straightforward. Need to be a little conniving to be really good in the NFL. And he acts like people on an Internet forum. Kicker missed two kicks? Cut him. Offensive coordinator has bad game? Fire him. Zimmer is like a FF Packer fan. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasquatch Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 32 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: And he acts like people on an Internet forum. Kicker missed two kicks? Cut him. Offensive coordinator has bad game? Fire him. Zimmer is like a FF Packer fan. LOL - nice analogy. High defensive football IQ, low EQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOTN-93 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 12/11/2018 at 8:00 AM, Howler said: Cousins looks fine to me, aside from his fumble issues. The ball comes out with zip on time and accurately. That's all you can ask of a QB. But that offensive line. I didn't realize how bad it's gotten and it wasn't good at the beginning either. Having Tony Sparano would help right now. Not saying the O-Line would be good but not this bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOTN-93 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 10 hours ago, Sasquatch said: LOL - nice analogy. High defensive football IQ, low EQ. He's right about Flip but I completely get what you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 15 hours ago, vikingsrule said: He's had Norv Turner, Pat Shurmur and DeFilippo. Turners offense is so outdated, he resigned halfway through the year making way for Shurmur. Shurmur was great last year and got a HC gig. Ya I’m aware of who they are and why they went but it doesn’t change the fact Zimmer has went through a good amount the past few seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 26 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said: Ya I’m aware of who they are and why they went but it doesn’t change the fact Zimmer has went through a good amount the past few seasons. I would expect that trend to continue. If his OC does well, they will quickly be in line for a promotion to HC elsewhere. If they do poorly, they will be deservedly fired. The lesson here is to hire offensive minded coaches as head coach because it is an offense focused league now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 I just want to see one team one time in my life take that risk of trading a QB at the height of their value and get a massive load to build a dynasty with. I stated after the Eagles Super Bowl win that if I were the Eagles, I'd roll with Foles and trade Wentz for an absolute monster haul, probably three first round picks AND a player. I obviously got laughed at by anyone I suggested it to, but look at the Eagles right now. .500 with him, below that without him. I just hope some day in my lifetime that trade gets made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfTheNorth Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: I just want to see one team one time in my life take that risk of trading a QB at the height of their value and get a massive load to build a dynasty with. I stated after the Eagles Super Bowl win that if I were the Eagles, I'd roll with Foles and trade Wentz for an absolute monster haul, probably three first round picks AND a player. I obviously got laughed at by anyone I suggested it to, but look at the Eagles right now. .500 with him, below that without him. I just hope some day in my lifetime that trade gets made. Like Josh McDaniels did with Cutler? Didn't turn out too good for him. I know it isn't the best example of what you are talking about, but Denver traded Cutler after his best season ever as a Pro. And they did arguably get a massive return to build with (2 first round picks, a 3rd, round pick, and Kyle Orton). Reminds me of the trade you were talking about with Rodgers and the Raiders earlier in the season. Edited December 12, 2018 by KingOfTheNorth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, KingOfTheNorth said: Like Josh McDaniels did with Cutler? Didn't turn out too good for him. I know it isn't the best example of what you are talking about, but Denver traded Cutler after his best season ever as a Pro. And they did arguably get a massive return to build with (2 first round picks, a 3rd, round pick, and Kyle Orton). Reminds me of the trade you were talking about with Rodgers and the Raiders earlier in the season. One can make an argument that Cleveland did it when they traded their rights for Wentz, the Titans for Goff, and the Rams for RG3. The Colts also this year for Darnold. Some to different degrees than the others. You could argue it worked out in the long run for every team, but they all went through some crap for a while to get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, KingOfTheNorth said: Like Josh McDaniels did with Cutler? Didn't turn out too good for him. I know it isn't the best example of what you are talking about, but Denver traded Cutler after his best season ever as a Pro. And they did arguably get a massive return to build with (2 first round picks, a 3rd, round pick, and Kyle Orton). Reminds me of the trade you were talking about with Rodgers and the Raiders earlier in the season. That one was tarnished by Cutler asking out. Value always drops when a player vocally wants out. Still, 25 touchdowns/18 interceptions... That was Cutler's best year. That's not the promise Wentz/Rodgers/Goff provide. The Broncos ended up getting D. Thomas through a bunch of trades, as well as other players (including Eric Decker). Broncos won Super Bowl with those two players, Bears were in purgatory for 8 years. Broncos won that trade, and haivng Thomas and Decker allowed them to get Manning. Imagine the haul a team would get from a player like Wentz/Goff/Rodgers after a Super Bowl win without the player requesting a trade. The long-lasting impact would help set up a dynasty the same way the Herschel Walker trade helped set up the Cowboys dynasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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