Shanedorf Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, NormSizedMidget said: Yeah but Mac didn't think Rodgers was as good as Alex Smith either doe. Worked out fine All that did was add another chip to Aaron's shoulder....Hey - maybe that's why he keeps breaking them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Shanedorf said: All that did was add another chip to Aaron's shoulder....Hey - maybe that's why he keeps breaking them ? Nice lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Gute just said the Packers are going to be as aggressive in free agency as they can be. He needs to stop talking. Now. He even acknowledged there are limitations, so he's gonna have to stop talking if he doesn't want fans grabbing torches and pitchforks. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/28/brian-gutekunst-packers-will-be-as-aggressive-as-we-can-in-free-agency/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moretti19 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 42 minutes ago, HorizontoZenith said: Gute just said the Packers are going to be as aggressive in free agency as they can be. He needs to stop talking. Now. He even acknowledged there are limitations, so he's gonna have to stop talking if he doesn't want fans grabbing torches and pitchforks. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/28/brian-gutekunst-packers-will-be-as-aggressive-as-we-can-in-free-agency/ Really trying not to get to excited but if he can land Fuller, Butler or Talib i'd be extremely happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jleisher Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 hour ago, spilltray said: No.... Just no. Value deals. Always only if it's good value. Your right, I am open to change, of course the price has to be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I'm on HorizontoZenith side of the CB argument. Last year after our thrashing from Atlanta in the playoffs it was clear to me that our CB depth was either too small or too slow. They could not deal what was thrown at them at NFL level. Gunter - too slow Hawkins - too small Goodson - too small/ not good enough Rollins - too slow Randall - too inconsistent It was clear that the cornerback group needed a complete overhaul. We started off reasonably by dipped into free agency bringing back House, we then drafted King and brought in several free agents. The most interesting thing about all this was that every player we brought in, down to the UDFAs were all bigger and faster than the guys we already had on the roster. It was a clear attempt by the Packers front office to upgrade our size/speed deficiencies. I was feeling optimistic that there would be an overhaul. What actually happened instead was that we kept ALL the players we had previously and only added House and King. They basically replaced Shields and Dorleant roster spots. That was not nearly enough in my view and not surprisingly it resulted in another season of uninspired CB play. I felt we could've done more in free agency. It was obvious that our CB group wasn't good enough then and it still isn't good enough now. House in my view was just a 1 year thing. We could've easily replaced him with another 1 year thing with Davis who is a clear and obvious upgrade. A top NFL CB who is the same age when Woodson joined us. Peters was a rare elite level player that was available on the cheap. We should've been involved at the very least. Not a peep from us in the NFL rumor mill. That was two missed opportunities. Looking at the list of CB free agents the ones who aren't small and slow, Kyle Fuller stands out but not sure if he will make it to FA. Prince Amukamara could be solid rotational depth. In my mind if we can add 2 free agents (one high quality talent and one inexpensive upgrade on House) and also draft a corner we would finally see some significant turnover at cornerback with an upgrade in size and speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Just now, moretti19 said: Really trying not to get to excited but if he can land Fuller, Butler or Talib i'd be extremely happy. Butler is far too slow for my liking. I don't want him. At all. I do not want a cornerback with speed limitations for the rest of my life. Talib is more of a crap person than Peters, but he's old. I'll pass on him. Fuller is going to be franchise tagged. Otherwise, yes, I'd like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Ya I’ll pass on Butler. Would welcome Colvin, Fuller, or two chainz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 hour ago, HorizontoZenith said: Butler is far too slow for my liking. I don't want him. At all. I do not want a cornerback with speed limitations for the rest of my life. Talib is more of a crap person than Peters, but he's old. I'll pass on him. Fuller is going to be franchise tagged. Otherwise, yes, I'd like him. That pro day 40 time for Butler isn't real.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Chili said: I'm on HorizontoZenith side of the CB argument. Last year after our thrashing from Atlanta in the playoffs it was clear to me that our CB depth was either too small or too slow. They could not deal what was thrown at them at NFL level. Gunter - too slow Hawkins - too small Goodson - too small/ not good enough Rollins - too slow Randall - too inconsistent It was clear that the cornerback group needed a complete overhaul. We started off reasonably by dipped into free agency bringing back House, we then drafted King and brought in several free agents. The most interesting thing about all this was that every player we brought in, down to the UDFAs were all bigger and faster than the guys we already had on the roster. It was a clear attempt by the Packers front office to upgrade our size/speed deficiencies. I was feeling optimistic that there would be an overhaul. What actually happened instead was that we kept ALL the players we had previously and only added House and King. They basically replaced Shields and Dorleant roster spots. That was not nearly enough in my view and not surprisingly it resulted in another season of uninspired CB play. I felt we could've done more in free agency. It was obvious that our CB group wasn't good enough then and it still isn't good enough now. House in my view was just a 1 year thing. We could've easily replaced him with another 1 year thing with Davis who is a clear and obvious upgrade. A top NFL CB who is the same age when Woodson joined us. Peters was a rare elite level player that was available on the cheap. We should've been involved at the very least. Not a peep from us in the NFL rumor mill. That was two missed opportunities. Looking at the list of CB free agents the ones who aren't small and slow, Kyle Fuller stands out but not sure if he will make it to FA. Prince Amukamara could be solid rotational depth. In my mind if we can add 2 free agents (one high quality talent and one inexpensive upgrade on House) and also draft a corner we would finally see some significant turnover at cornerback with an upgrade in size and speed. Megatron out of retirement for CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Just now, NormSizedMidget said: That pro day 40 time for Butler isn't real.. I didn't even look it up. I'm basing it off what Patriots fans said... While he was a Patriot. If that's not a red flag, you're color blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, NormSizedMidget said: That pro day 40 time for Butler isn't real.. yeah i don't think he's slow. The guy covers antonio brown for crissakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 30 minutes ago, HorizontoZenith said: I didn't even look it up. I'm basing it off what Patriots fans said... While he was a Patriot. If that's not a red flag, you're color blind. I still think this all started from his 40 time from his pro day. Maybe he really ran that slow, but he's not that slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persiandud Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Talib would be a great get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tredpack Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 No thanks on Butler. Part if me has faith that Pettine will be able to get more out of this defense then what we had before. I’d rather get a draft pick on the cheap then bring on Fuller for high dollars. To me he is slightly better than okay. Either get a stud, or pick a db high in the draft. Dont ***** foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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