Tk3 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 5 hours ago, Whicker said: All role PMs have gone out. Please PM me with any questions The Ancient Era has begun The following Wonders are available to build during the Ancient Era. Please send me a build request or no build PM before the day ends The Hanging Gardens – Each night, choose one player. That player is protected from all killing actions. You may not target yourself. The Pyramids – If you die, no information will be released with your death. You will become a tree stump and may continue posting in the main thread. You will be dead for all other purposes. Mausoleum of Helicarnassus – Each day, you may send me one PM of any length that I will forward to any other player. That player will be allowed one PM in response. Stonehenge – Each night, choose one player. If you are killed that night, that player's alignment and Wonder will be publicly revealed. Statue of Zeus – Each night, choose one player. The first time a killing action targets you, it will be redirected to your target. Let's talk this through: First of all - I think there will be a lot of temptation to hold off and wait for better items, but I would argue that civs need to ALL go after these, and gain the powers, ESPECIALLY since there is a low risk of using these specific items wrong. We should use our power in numbers to keep the powers out of the mafia hands. Specifically, lets go through each one. Hanging Gardens - This is going to be one that the mafia will want. It will certainly be more valuable for them than us, as they will know how to use it effectively, but I believe a civ NEEDS to try to take this to keep it out of mafia hands. Pyramids - Honestly, I think civs need to ignore this one completely (as someone else suggested). It provides no benefit to the civs, and since it is a SELF-janitor rather than janitoring someone else, I don't see how it will cause chaos in the game if mafia gets it. Mausoleum - I would ignore this one too. I just don't see a huge benefit to it. Stonehenge - Someone should go for this, but we really don't need a whole mass of players going for it - as mafia will have zero interest in receiving this. It cannot be played incorrectly, and upon death it will either Red letter a player VIA HOST or it will clear a player VIA HOST. This is very valuable to have in the game. Statue of Zeus - We need to go after this one in masses as well, again because we cannot allow mafia to get it. This essentially serves as both a bodyguard and a hit (although we won't know when the "hit" portion will actually come into play). I'd suggest half of the civs go after Hanging Gardens, half of the civs go after Zeus, and 1 civ to go after Stonehenge. Ignore the Pyramids and Mausoleum. That will leave about a dozen civs still open to go after future items. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Just now, Ua said: So would your last sentence be the down side of voting Art? We would be increasing the number of early era Wonders....which will likely go to civs....leaving the more powerful Wonders for the mafia. We will have to hope the early Wonders help us hunt down some scum Possibly. Being as their are no investigations yet, scum is likely more inclined to sit back, let town mislynch, use their kill, and wait for better roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tk3 said: Let's talk this through: First of all - I think there will be a lot of temptation to hold off and wait for better items, but I would argue that civs need to ALL go after these, and gain the powers, ESPECIALLY since there is a low risk of using these specific items wrong. We should use our power in numbers to keep the powers out of the mafia hands. Specifically, lets go through each one. Hanging Gardens - This is going to be one that the mafia will want. It will certainly be more valuable for them than us, as they will know how to use it effectively, but I believe a civ NEEDS to try to take this to keep it out of mafia hands. Pyramids - Honestly, I think civs need to ignore this one completely (as someone else suggested). It provides no benefit to the civs, and since it is a SELF-janitor rather than janitoring someone else, I don't see how it will cause chaos in the game if mafia gets it. Mausoleum - I would ignore this one too. I just don't see a huge benefit to it. Stonehenge - Someone should go for this, but we really don't need a whole mass of players going for it - as mafia will have zero interest in receiving this. It cannot be played incorrectly, and upon death it will either Red letter a player VIA HOST or it will clear a player VIA HOST. This is very valuable to have in the game. Statue of Zeus - We need to go after this one in masses as well, again because we cannot allow mafia to get it. This essentially serves as both a bodyguard and a hit (although we won't know when the "hit" portion will actually come into play). I'd suggest half of the civs go after Hanging Gardens, half of the civs go after Zeus, and 1 civ to go after Stonehenge. Ignore the Pyramids and Mausoleum. That will leave about a dozen civs still open to go after future items. Thoughts? While this sounds good in theory, I don't think that dictating how people go for roles is necessarily good in general. If we all agree to this, then scum knows the roles out there and what to watch for. I think we know a host of people are going to go after certain roles like the gardens, but after that, keep scum in the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 What'd I miss? Anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 minute ago, bucsfan333 said: What'd I miss? Anything? it's like... 4 pages. go read up no scum hunting other than my accusation of Ruskie's slip. mostly deciding what to do about the great wonders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I still think the more abilities, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 4:11 PM, Tk3 said: Let's talk this through: First of all - I think there will be a lot of temptation to hold off and wait for better items, but I would argue that civs need to ALL go after these, and gain the powers, ESPECIALLY since there is a low risk of using these specific items wrong. We should use our power in numbers to keep the powers out of the mafia hands. Specifically, lets go through each one. Hanging Gardens - This is going to be one that the mafia will want. It will certainly be more valuable for them than us, as they will know how to use it effectively, but I believe a civ NEEDS to try to take this to keep it out of mafia hands. Pyramids - Honestly, I think civs need to ignore this one completely (as someone else suggested). It provides no benefit to the civs, and since it is a SELF-janitor rather than janitoring someone else, I don't see how it will cause chaos in the game if mafia gets it. Mausoleum - I would ignore this one too. I just don't see a huge benefit to it. Stonehenge - Someone should go for this, but we really don't need a whole mass of players going for it - as mafia will have zero interest in receiving this. It cannot be played incorrectly, and upon death it will either Red letter a player VIA HOST or it will clear a player VIA HOST. This is very valuable to have in the game. Statue of Zeus - We need to go after this one in masses as well, again because we cannot allow mafia to get it. This essentially serves as both a bodyguard and a hit (although we won't know when the "hit" portion will actually come into play). I'd suggest half of the civs go after Hanging Gardens, half of the civs go after Zeus, and 1 civ to go after Stonehenge. Ignore the Pyramids and Mausoleum. That will leave about a dozen civs still open to go after future items. Thoughts? Know how I know you are mafia? You spelled it out within your descriptions. tk3 is mafia with Rags and Ruskie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 TK3 you are a smart guy. And you gave yourself away. It's so obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 minute ago, RuskieTitan said: Know how I know you are mafia? You spelled it out within your descriptions. tk3 is mafia with Rags and Ruskie. Nailed our scum team D1. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 minute ago, RuskieTitan said: Know how I know you are mafia? You spelled it out within your descriptions. tk3 is mafia with Rags and Ruskie. Calling yourself mafia is something that mafia would do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 Current vote (Resolution 1) 1 Sciences – Dome 9 Arts – ET, Famous, Bcb, Bucs, LTBF, Ua, Rags, Raves, Gopher 5 None – Touch, Tk3, Mookie, Ruskie, Darth With 18 alive, it takes 10 to pass a resolution via majority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 A little over one hour until the Resolution deadline where it will be passed via plurality. If there is a tie at deadline, the barbarians will receive a factional vote to break the tie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 10:01 AM, Whicker said: The Pyramids – If you die, no information will be released with your death. You will become a tree stump and may continue posting in the main thread. You will be dead for all other purposes. Mausoleum of Helicarnassus – Each day, you may send me one PM of any length that I will forward to any other player. That player will be allowed one PM in response. @Whicker Can you clarify - If a person is "dead for all other purposes", as I understand, their vote is no longer valid. However, are they still considered a 'player' in the game? In other words, could the Pyramids dude received PMs and respond to the Mausoleum dude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuskieTitan Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 4:53 PM, Whicker said: Current vote (Resolution 1) 1 Sciences – Dome 9 Arts – ET, Famous, Bcb, Bucs, LTBF, Ua, Rags, Raves, Gopher 5 None – Touch, Tk3, Mookie, Ruskie, Darth With 18 alive, it takes 10 to pass a resolution via majority Arts & Crafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 minute ago, RuskieTitan said: @Whicker Can you clarify - If a person is "dead for all other purposes", as I understand, their vote is no longer valid. However, are they still considered a 'player' in the game? In other words, could the Pyramids dude received PMs and respond to the Mausoleum dude? They cannot vote nor be the target of any abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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