deltarich87 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Ketchup said: Lol I really hope Gute knows what he’s going because there was no way that wasn’t being matched. What was the point? looks like the point was to help the Bears out by negotiating a pretty damn good extension for them with their #1 CB. Essentially a 2yr deal with $18 million guaranteed for a 26 yr old coming off a breakout season. Bears must be thrilled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketchup Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, HorizontoZenith said: It's a good point, but... *TRIED. I respect Gute for trying, but I feel like if you're not going to go all out on something like this, it hurts you more than helps you. It helped the Bears. Made them lock up a good corner for four years on a good deal. If it was a better attempt or if it hurt the Bears more, good move, but I don't think it was a good attempt, and I don't like the outcome. I really don’t get it. There was really no chance Bears weren’t matching that. We just did the leg work on negotiating a contract for a division rival and got nothing out of it, at least not that I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodjahs12 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 This is frankly as much if not more questionable than the Randall trade. not loving what I’m seeing from Gute so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Kinda feels like an aggressive Gute got Ball'd by his conservative cap guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Ketchup said: I really don’t get it. There was really no chance Bears weren’t matching that. We just did the leg work on negotiating a contract for a division rival and got nothing out of it, at least not that I can see. I'd even go so far as to say it worked out to be a negative. Surely he could have guaranteed more. I mean I have no clue about contracts, but it's essentially a 2 year deal at 9 per. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, deltarich87 said: looks like the point was to help the Bears out by negotiating a pretty damn good extension for them with their #1 CB. Essentially a 2yr deal with $18 million guaranteed for a 26 yr old coming off a breakout season. Bears must be thrilled Sort of. The negotiations hit an impasse and Chicago wasn't willing to go any higher per the comments from Arkush at Pro Football Weekly. So in comes the offer sheet from GB and suddenly the bears move off of their number and land on Fullers number. Packers couldn't offer some ape**** deal, because the bears could just say OK, he's yours and the Packers would be stuck with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, deltarich87 said: looks like the point was to help the Bears out by negotiating a pretty damn good extension for them with their #1 CB. Essentially a 2yr deal with $18 million guaranteed for a 26 yr old coming off a breakout season. Bears must be thrilled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Shanedorf said: Sort of. The negotiations hit an impasse and Chicago wasn't willing to go any higher per the comments from Arkush at Pro Football Weekly. So in comes the offer sheet from GB and suddenly the bears move off of their number and land on Fullers number. Packers couldn't offer some ape**** deal, because the bears could just say OK, he's yours and the Packers would be stuck with it I guess I'm thinking about the vast cap space GB has in the next couple years and thinking we could have eaten more of a guarantee there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mr Anonymous said: Kinda feels like an aggressive Gute got Ball'd by his conservative cap guy Gute's name is on the bar tab. That was a very confusing set of moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBURGE Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, ArthurPensky said: So, we tried. I'm okay with that. 20m in year one is actually a decision the bears have to make. Sucks we didn't get him but not as bad as it looked 15 minutes ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, ArthurPensky said: Good to know. I was way off then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Shanedorf said: Sort of. The negotiations hit an impasse and Chicago wasn't willing to go any higher per the comments from Arkush at Pro Football Weekly. So in comes the offer sheet from GB and suddenly the bears move off of their number and land on Fullers number. Packers couldn't offer some ape**** deal, because the bears could just say OK, he's yours and the Packers would be stuck with it So they offered 1m in guarantees per year more than his tag? He went from 13m guaranteed on a one year deal, to 18 on 4. Gute pretty much held Pace's hand, too him up to the batters box and set the ball on the tee for him. There's a difference between a crazy deal and just giving your division rival a steal of a contract for a nice young player. Horrible GM work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 "Bears' prior best offer on long-term deal was $10M per year " And now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Idk... looking at the details they have to eat 20 million year one. That's a chunk of change for one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketchup Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 So now what? I guess bring House back and hope for the best in the draft. That plus go real hard after TM to help add a play maker in the secondary, even if it’s not a boundary CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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