ninjapirate Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I wonder if the books will do the whole let's go get a live(?) wight to prove they exists in the books. I know they sent the hand that rotted because tyrion thought alliser was annoying. So it will be interesting if they try again in the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I don't think Fatty will finish the books. Looking increasingly likely that someone else is going to have to come in and do the job. Martin is now old and rich, and is focussing on other projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 I wonder if the whole Rhaegar annulment thing is something GRRM told them about, or just something that Benioff and Weiss made up. Or maybe somewhere in between where GRRM said something along the lines of "yeah, he's legitimate". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEvans Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 24 minutes ago, THE DUKE said: I wonder if the whole Rhaegar annulment thing is something GRRM told them about, or just something that Benioff and Weiss made up. Or maybe somewhere in between where GRRM said something along the lines of "yeah, he's legitimate". I suppose they kind of had to do it but it all just feels very forced and feels like everything works out just a little too nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywindO2 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 I don't know if it's the first time someone's mentioned it but read a theory on reddit this morning that Rhaegar was actually Azor Ahai and Jon is Lightbringer. If prophecies aren't meant to be taken literally, there's plenty of evidence to support the theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 40 minutes ago, skywindO2 said: I don't know if it's the first time someone's mentioned it but read a theory on reddit this morning that Rhaegar was actually Azor Ahai and Jon is Lightbringer. If prophecies aren't meant to be taken literally, there's plenty of evidence to support the theory. I could see how that kind of fits. That would make Lyanna the Nissa Nissa and Lightbringer could only be forged by the blood of Nissa Nissa, Jon being lightbringer with Lyanna dying in childbirth. I don't think I see this being the case, but there is at least evidence to support the theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywindO2 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 37 minutes ago, THE DUKE said: I could see how that kind of fits. That would make Lyanna the Nissa Nissa and Lightbringer could only be forged by the blood of Nissa Nissa, Jon being lightbringer with Lyanna dying in childbirth. I don't think I see this being the case, but there is at least evidence to support the theory. Yeah, I'm not going to say it's the idea I want to go with but the evidence is certainly strong enough to keep it in the back of my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazStandard Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 3 hours ago, THE DUKE said: I wonder if the whole Rhaegar annulment thing is something GRRM told them about, or just something that Benioff and Weiss made up. Or maybe somewhere in between where GRRM said something along the lines of "yeah, he's legitimate". I can't see how it can be in the books - there's never any mention of "annulment" as a concept, that I recall. Even then, historically speaking, an anulment is possible on only 2 grounds - the marriage was never consumated, or they never had any children. Both obviously not the case with Rhaegar. It seems likely to me that Rhaegar simply married twice - Marrying Lyanna in front of the Old Gods. Polygamy is something that the Targaryens have been known to do going back centuries. This marriage could be considered to legitimate by many because it was done in a different relgion. That's all very complicated and mult-faceted for a show keen to simplify everything as much as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 3 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said: I don't think Fatty will finish the books. Looking increasingly likely that someone else is going to have to come in and do the job. Martin is now old and rich, and is focussing on other projects. He's said that won't happen. He doesn't want any other author writing stories in his universe, and definitely doesn't want them finishing the main story. For the time being, if he dies, the story does as well. Now, years down the line...when those story rights pass down to whoever, and maybe they need a little money or something? Okay, that may happen. But it'll be well after GRRM is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 On 8/14/2017 at 5:11 AM, THE DUKE said: I wonder if the whole Rhaegar annulment thing is something GRRM told them about, or just something that Benioff and Weiss made up. Or maybe somewhere in between where GRRM said something along the lines of "yeah, he's legitimate". Well one thing is for certain. I think that was a dead give away that they are setting Jon up to be King after the war. Because he is still a bastard unless they can prove he was a legitimate child of Rhaegar and Lyanna with both being married at the time of the conception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEvans Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 On 8/14/2017 at 11:45 AM, Forge said: He's said that won't happen. He doesn't want any other author writing stories in his universe, and definitely doesn't want them finishing the main story. For the time being, if he dies, the story does as well. Now, years down the line...when those story rights pass down to whoever, and maybe they need a little money or something? Okay, that may happen. But it'll be well after GRRM is gone. So we should kill him now so the books come out quicker? We'd probably get them faster than him actually writing them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 On 8/14/2017 at 5:11 AM, THE DUKE said: I wonder if the whole Rhaegar annulment thing is something GRRM told them about, or just something that Benioff and Weiss made up. Or maybe somewhere in between where GRRM said something along the lines of "yeah, he's legitimate". Maybe the show's version of the Harp? There's a prevailing theory that Rhaegar's harp is located within Lyanna's statue in the Winterfell crypts which would help to validate Jon's "claim". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggio7 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 So, Ice Dragon officially confirmed, just condensed for the show? I do consider the books and the show too different things ever since the show passed the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 hour ago, biggio7 said: So, Ice Dragon officially confirmed, just condensed for the show? I do consider the books and the show too different things ever since the show passed the books. Since viserion is a wight wouldnt he kill himself if he blew fire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cddolphin Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 8 hours ago, ninjapirate said: Since viserion is a wight wouldnt he kill himself if he blew fire? I highly doubt Wight Viserion breathes fire. It doesn't make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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