Norm Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Already? Well I'm not prepared this to become a nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Wow. No camp competition either. I guess they want to give Crosby, Bradley and Scott as many snaps as possible together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat1080 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 I hope this isn't another Derrick Frost situation. We got rid of a very proven punter in Jon Ryan for a guy that the ST coach was enamored with and the guy was terrible. I was happy about our punting situation last year for the first time in a long time. This is a little baffling. At the very least, our GM is showing that he's listening to the coaching staff and is trying to build the team with players to suit their needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg C. Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, strat1080 said: I hope this isn't another Derrick Frost situation. We got rid of a very proven punter in Jon Ryan for a guy that the ST coach was enamored with and the guy was terrible. I was happy about our punting situation last year for the first time in a long time. This is a little baffling. At the very least, our GM is showing that he's listening to the coaching staff and is trying to build the team with players to suit their needs. I don't think it's good if this decision was made because of the opinions of the coaching staff. This has "Jon Ryan" written all over it. Vogel was the best punter we've had in decades, and the new guy easily could be a bust. I thought it was funny last year how the coaches continually complained about Vogel being inconsistent and refused to publicly admit that they were impressed by him. He may end up punting for the Vikings, and he'll probably get even better with experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat1080 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Greg C. said: I don't think it's good if this decision was made because of the opinions of the coaching staff. This has "Jon Ryan" written all over it. Vogel was the best punter we've had in decades, and the new guy easily could be a bust. I thought it was funny last year how the coaches continually complained about Vogel being inconsistent and refused to publicly admit that they were impressed by him. He may end up punting for the Vikings, and he'll probably get even better with experience. I feel the same way. I'm a little uneasy about this and think it could be another Jon Ryan/Derrick Frost situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 Vogel requested his release. Makes sense, he'll get claimed by a team who will give him the job and he'll have all summer to move and get acclimated to the new city. Versus the Jake Schum situation he was heading towards where he probably lives out of a hotel until the bye week. I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fussnputz Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Vogel was a bad holder. Crosby will be better off without him. Scott is a two step punter out of a major program. He'll be fine. R-E-L-A-X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Its weird. I heard nothing about Vogel's holding issues before Scott was drafted. Now it's being mentioned all the time lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeightTheVillain Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chili said: Its weird. I heard nothing about Vogel's holding issues before Scott was drafted. Now it's being mentioned all the time lol. Must have missed the Cowboys game then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg C. Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Crosby has publicly criticized at least two or three of his holders over the years. There will be a lot of pressure on the new guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, SpeightTheVillain said: Must have missed the Cowboys game then Despite the Cowboys game everyone was more than happy for him to be our punter for next season. Then the negative jibes started to pop up as soon Scott was drafted. It's just very weird and interesting human behaviour. I wonder if there's a scientific study on this phenomenon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrILL! Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 he proved himself under pressure right away in 2014 as a true freshman at Alabama in his first national title game, booming seven punts for a single-game school record 55.0-yard average (53.6 net), with five dropped inside the 20 and two of them covering 73 and 65 yards. He finished on a similarly high note, with three of six punts in last year’s national title game against Georgia going for 50-plus, two inside the 20. Clutch with the leg cannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Chili said: Its weird. I heard nothing about Vogel's holding issues before Scott was drafted. Now it's being mentioned all the time lol. They had problems during the 2017 season which were described as "operational failures" - or something like that. The team never specified. Although I was thinking it was centered around the LS - there probably were some issues with Vogel's holding. Scott's a player. A four year player at the top program in the nation - not some small school "welcome to the big time" question mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaRisMa Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Ive never heard so much whining over a Punter. We got the Mason Crosby of Punters in the draft. He's a better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillparsi1 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Well that's interesting. Assuming the source is right...was there an issue with Zook and Vogel. Cause this throws the "competition is always good" out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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