757-NINER Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 30 minutes ago, NinerNation21 said: What a hashtag. I also like Sweat more. I love his size and athletism more than Burns. I'm really concerned with Burns' play weight and the fact that he may drop back down into the 220's. If trade back happened within the top 10, I hope Sweat is our guy. Personally, that isn't a concern for me at all for Burns. He should have no problem maintaining his weight with a NFL strength & conditioning program. And he's just naturally going to add weight over time.....#Burnsthemostgiftedpassrusherinthedraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Just now, 757-NINER said: Personally, that isn't a concern for me at all for Burns. He should have no problem maintaining his weight with a NFL strength & conditioning probably. And he's just naturally going to add weight over time.....#Burnsthemostgiftedpassrusherinthedraft #EasilyTheMostGiftedPassRusherInTheDraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrissooner49er Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 While I would be absolutely ecstatic over Bosa or Sweat, to be honest, I would be pleased to have any outside rusher in the 1st round who isn't named Gary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinerNation21 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 1 minute ago, 757-NINER said: Personally, that isn't a concern for me at all for Burns. He should have no problem maintaining his weight with a NFL strength & conditioning program. And he's just naturally going to add weight over time.....#Burnsthemostgiftedpassrusherinthedraft The bolded is my problem. Why bet on a guy to maintain weight, which he's shown he couldn't do at a program that's as close to NFL as any college program, when you can take a guy who has elite measurables and production? If we trade back and Sweat is off the board, then sure, let's go Burns because I like him a whole hell of a lot better than Gary. But if Sweat is there, he's the safe bet for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said: #EasilyTheMostGiftedPassRusherInTheDraft #thatswhattheysaidaboutvicbeasleyandjarvisjones Not that my hashtag matters tbh, I just like really long hashtags and wanted to use that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Forge said: #thatswhattheysaidaboutvicbeasleyandjarvisjones Not that my hashtag matters tbh, I just like really long hashtags and wanted to use that one Huh? Definitely wasn't said by me. But #BeasleyDoesn'tHaveTheBendThatBurnsHas Now, if you want to say I was all in on Harold Landry? Definitely was. If he ends up failing then that can be used against my judgement of edge rushers coming out of the draft lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48 1/2ers Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Forge said: I don't think that's a mess...a little rampant paranoia, maybe, but do what you've got to do, I suppose. Doesn't Rapaport reporting this validate the concern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said: Didn't know who to trust as in which evaluations to trust or they think they have scouts leaking stuff out? I was assuming for leaking purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 1 minute ago, 48 1/2ers said: Doesn't Rapaport reporting this validate the concern? Not really with regards to being a mess. But I'm assuming that it's over leaks...not other stuff. Leaks happen in pretty much every front office...so that's not a concern to me. They just are overly paranoid with regards to being secretive. That's more on Gruden / Mayock in my opinion and just how they want to run things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2lamanaki Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 32 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said: So hey, how does drafting Williams at #2 and Ferrell at #36 sound to you???? If I can be guaranteed of this, I would sign off on Williams immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48 1/2ers Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Forge said: Not really with regards to being a mess. But I'm assuming that it's over leaks...not other stuff. Leaks happen in pretty much every front office...so that's not a concern to me. They just are overly paranoid with regards to being secretive. That's more on Gruden / Mayock in my opinion and just how they want to run things. I was assuming their trying to prevent (or maybe control) the leaks, and i agree not concerning. Kinda sucks if you were a scout that invested all this time and energy but it comes with the territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinerNation21 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 Hypothetical Scenario: Cardinals stick with Rosen and take Bosa #1. Teams start furiously calling the Niners to move up, but the Raiders and Giants are the two most serious teams. Which offer do you take? Raiders trade 1.4, 1.27, 4.107, 2020 2nd Giants trade 1.6, 2.37, 4.109, 2020 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
757-NINER Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 @NinerNation21 Because Burns is the better player. His tape is better for one. And Sweat doesn't play to his athletic measurables. His film is just ok. I think he benefited greatly from Simmons just being a absolute wreaking ball inside. His bust potential is jus too high for me. I wouldn't hate him if we traded down and all of the other edge guye were gone. But for me, I'd take Burns and Ferrell over him easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_locniners Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, Chrissooner49er said: While I would be absolutely ecstatic over Bosa or Sweat, to be honest, I would be pleased to have any outside rusher in the 1st round who isn't named Gary. I agree, as long as it isn't Gary. If we decide to trade back, a player like Burns or Sweat opposite Dee Ford would still be great. We would also be able to address CB/Safety/WR in the first two or three rounds, after that we are almost playing with house money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_locniners Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, NinerNation21 said: Hypothetical Scenario: Cardinals stick with Rosen and take Bosa #1. Teams start furiously calling the Niners to move up, but the Raiders and Giants are the two most serious teams. Which offer do you take? Raiders trade 1.4, 1.27, 4.107, 2020 2nd Giants trade 1.6, 2.37, 4.109, 2020 1st I would take that Raiders trade, dropping two spots while picking up an extra 1 and re-coup next years two. Still coming away with a great talent. Though the Giants trade would justify taking a Ferrell, Sweat or Burns a bit more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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