J-ALL-DAY Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, bkobow05 said: He's the most overrated player in basketball Averaging 13/12/9/2/1 while playing amazing defense. Overrated? If that is overrated, I'll take being "overrated" any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Troy Brown said: i'm taking kyrie for that title ..or blake. at aleast draymond, even when not engaged, can be great defensively True. Those two can at least produce for themselves tho. Dray is worthless outside that environment. Put him on any other team and he's nothing. That's my qualm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Just now, J-ALL-DAY said: Averaging 13/12/9/2/1 while playing amazing defense. Overrated? If that is overrated, I'll take being "overrated" any day of the week. Product of the environment. Nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 He also gets away with a lot more **** than most players on defense. Its beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-ALL-DAY Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, bkobow05 said: Product of the environment. Nothing more. Word? The team was far from dominant or elite until Draymond got in the line up and became the player he has become. A complete force on the defensive end and a damn good all around player. Again, I'll take that being "overrated" any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, J-ALL-DAY said: Word? The team was far from dominant or elite until Draymond got in the line up and became the player he has become. A complete force on the defensive end and a damn good all around player. Again, I'll take that being "overrated" any day of the week. Whatever you say, chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 @bkobow05 I'm pretty sure that the only way to stop LeBron is to kick him in the nuts repeatedly, which makes Draymond the best LeBron stopper in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Draymond’s the smartest, most versatile, and all around valuable defensive player in the league. If you understand the nuances that go into his defensive role and the impact he makes, you’d understand why for 3 straight seasons he’s made All-NBA Defensive First Team and finished in the top 2 for DPOY. There’s nothing overrated about a big who can effectively guard all 5 positions, while leading a fast break and feeding his teammates on the other end of the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 hour ago, bkobow05 said: He's the most overrated player in basketball I can't disagree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Brown Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 He is definitely overrated but I think his defense would be as great anywhere so that leaves him out of the top of the list for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 hour ago, bkobow05 said: True. Those two can at least produce for themselves tho. Dray is worthless outside that environment. Put him on any other team and he's nothing. That's my qualm. Draymond isn't worthless on any team. Players like Andre Roberson have value in the NBA. Draymond's defensive ability alone would make him valuable to any squad. And on top of that, every squad could use a secondary ball-handler who can run the offense and pass like a PG. Draymond is a valuable player on any team. Yes, he's less valuable on an iso-heavy offense, but he's extraordinarily valuable on any offense that relies on a lot of motion and ball movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Troy Brown said: He is definitely overrated but I think his defense would be as great anywhere so that leaves him out of the top of the list for me Was prime Rajon Rondo overrated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Brown Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Just now, jrry32 said: Was prime Rajon Rondo overrated? he was underrated but the contexts aren't similar at all. prime rondo carried a team of declining veterans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Troy Brown said: he was underrated but the contexts aren't similar at all. prime rondo carried a team of declining veterans I'm trying to understand how Rondo could be underrated and Draymond overrated. How many people think of Draymond as an elite player? In fact, it seems like a lot of people share BK's opinion that Draymond wouldn't be good outside of GS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Brown Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 minute ago, jrry32 said: I'm trying to understand how Rondo could be underrated and Draymond overrated. How many people think of Draymond as an elite player? In fact, it seems like a lot of people share BK's opinion that Draymond wouldn't be good outside of GS. nobody thought rondo was elite either, i don't understand your correlation well, i guess i did think he was an elite point guard. i probably would have only taken cp3 and rose over him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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