BayRaider Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 IF we do trade Carr in the off season, not saying we will, but what do you think about this compensation? We have Picks #1, #17, #18. We swap with NYG, they get pick #18 and Derek Carr. We get pick #3, a 5th Round Pick, and Landon Collins. I think Landon just needs a change of scenery. Starting defense next season includes Nick Bosa, Greedy Williams, Deionte Thompson, Landon Collins, improved Gareon Conley, and perhaps CJ Mosley who will be a UFA. Andddd then, we package both our 1sts next year, along with a 4th, trade to #1 and get Tua from Alabama in 2020. Keep your eye on Alabama vs LSU on Saturday. If Tua does well in that game he will probably be the highest rated QB Prospect since Andrew Luck and possibly even higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 11 minutes ago, BayRaider said: IF we do trade Carr in the off season, not saying we will, but what do you think about this compensation? We have Picks #1, #17, #18. We swap with NYG, they get pick #18 and Derek Carr. We get pick #3, a 5th Round Pick, and Landon Collins. I think Landon just needs a change of scenery. Starting defense next season includes Nick Bosa, Greedy Williams, Deionte Thompson, Landon Collins, improved Gareon Conley, and perhaps CJ Mosley who will be a UFA. Andddd then, we package both our 1sts next year, along with a 4th, trade to #1 and get Tua from Alabama in 2020. Keep your eye on Alabama vs LSU on Saturday. If Tua does well in that game he will probably be the highest rated QB Prospect since Andrew Luck and possibly even higher. Tua is not going to be a good NFL QB. Period He holds the ball too low his, releases too long, he has accuracy issues and he won’t have protection he has now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the Raiders are committed to Derek Carr as their long-term starter at quarterback. With their season going down the tubes, the Raiders have begun cleaning house, which led to rumblings that Carr could be moved ahead of Tuesday's 4 PM ET trade deadline. There were also reports that teammates were questioning Carr's toughness, leading to tension within the locker room. Despite all the noise, coach Jon Gruden has double-downed on his quarterback while shooting down any and all trade rumors. Carr's current contract runs through 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bitty 2.0 said: Tua is not going to be a good NFL QB. Period He holds the ball too low his, releases too long, he has accuracy issues and he won’t have protection he has now. Like I said the LSU game will be telling. He has faced all cakewalk defenses this year (although destroyed Georgias Defense last year). LSU is arguably the best defense in college football with two future NFL All Pros and multiple NFL starters. Tua could prove he is #1 pick in the draft worthy or a 4th Round QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, BayRaider said: Like I said the LSU game will be telling. He has faced all cakewalk defenses this year (although destroyed Georgias Defense last year). LSU is arguably the best defense in college football with two future NFL All Pros and multiple NFL starters. Tua could prove he is #1 pick in the draft worthy or a 4th Round QB. What do y’all think about Fromm the Georgia qb? he quietly produces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 hours ago, BayRaider said: IF we do trade Carr in the off season, not saying we will, but what do you think about this compensation? We have Picks #1, #17, #18. We swap with NYG, they get pick #18 and Derek Carr. We get pick #3, a 5th Round Pick, and Landon Collins. I think Landon just needs a change of scenery. Starting defense next season includes Nick Bosa, Greedy Williams, Deionte Thompson, Landon Collins, improved Gareon Conley, and perhaps CJ Mosley who will be a UFA. Andddd then, we package both our 1sts next year, along with a 4th, trade to #1 and get Tua from Alabama in 2020. Keep your eye on Alabama vs LSU on Saturday. If Tua does well in that game he will probably be the highest rated QB Prospect since Andrew Luck and possibly even higher. You think Carr is worth moving up 15 spots into the top 5, a 5th, and an All-Pro safety in his prime? I would love it but NEVER happening. Id doubt the Giants would trade Collins for Carr straight up. He's probably the best SS in the league and he's still only 26. And Tua will never be a starting nfl qb. Hes not Russell Wilson and has a ton of flaws. His mechanics alone are enough to scare me away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 hours ago, BayRaider said: Like I said the LSU game will be telling. He has faced all cakewalk defenses this year (although destroyed Georgias Defense last year). LSU is arguably the best defense in college football with two future NFL All Pros and multiple NFL starters. Tua could prove he is #1 pick in the draft worthy or a 4th Round QB. Just anointing White and Greedy All-pros now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 hours ago, NCOUGHMAN said: What do y’all think about Fromm the Georgia qb? he quietly produces Weak arm. He's not an NFL QB. Another Aaron Murray type Georgia QB. Excited about the freshman Fields who likely take his job next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 hours ago, BayRaider said: Like I said the LSU game will be telling. He has faced all cakewalk defenses this year (although destroyed Georgias Defense last year). LSU is arguably the best defense in college football with two future NFL All Pros and multiple NFL starters. Tua could prove he is #1 pick in the draft worthy or a 4th Round QB. It won't Tua is not even remotely in Andrew Luck's league. Tua will be fine against LSU because Alabama is a powerhouse. Best Oline, WRs, TE, etc. you will find in college football. Doesn't make him a top NFL prospect. Seriously, Jeudy and Ruggs are top notch WRs. Irv Smith might be TE 1 next year. Jonah is a franchise LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CerealKiller Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 What day 2 receivers do you guys like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 34 minutes ago, big_palooka said: Weak arm. He's not an NFL QB. Another Aaron Murray type Georgia QB. Excited about the freshman Fields who likely take his job next season. Interesting his arm strength seems legit but I’ll definitely keep a eye out on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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riceman80 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 5 hours ago, big_palooka said: Just anointing White and Greedy All-pros now? Greedy is about as sure a CB prospect as you can get. He needs to improve vs the run. Other than that he doesnt have a flaw to his game really. He's a plug and play shadow corner. He's my #3 prospect on my BB behind only Bosa and Oliver. Favorite CB prospect in a long time for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 We need to address the consistently abused situation aswell and that is LB. we need to. Come away with quality this draft and throwing a struggling cj mosley in is just another band-aid on an infected gaping wound. We neglected this for too long and I hope we get white in the draft or something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riceman80 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 things we NEED to improve our D... A consistent pass rusher A true 3 down MLB who can make plays A true FS who can limit the over the top plays that have killed us for years. Easier said than done thats what we need most on D imo. After that, someone who can cover TEs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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