Heimdallr Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 28 minutes ago, Broncofan said: So the end result was ok - just how D&D got there using Bran didn’t feel earned at all. But they subverted expectations!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: Like I said happy endings for just about everyone. Samwell- Wanted to become a maester so he could read books all day. Became a maester. Bronn- Wanted to be a lord and get a castle. Became a Highlord and got the nicest damn castle in Westeros. Brienne- Wanted to serve as a Knight. Became Lord Commander of the Kingsguard. Jon- Didn't want to rule and wanted to go back North. Chosen not to rule and exiled back north. Dany- Wanted to Break the Wheel Wheel Broken Arya- Wanted to be Nymeria who she named her wolf after. Went off like Dora the Explorer almost like Nymeria Sansa- Originally wanted to become Queen by marrying the King Became Queen anyways. Didn't need a King. Wildlings- Wanted to be free Still free at the end. Yara- Wanted to lead the Iron Islanders Lead them. Hound- Wanted vengence Got vengence Jaime- Wanted to die in the arms of the woman he loves Found under a thin layer of bricks that probably wouldn't have killed them both if we're being serious. Maybe a broken shoulder or open wound on their head. Dothraki- Wanted to kill men in Iron suits for their Queen while raping and pillaging Did just all that. Unsullied- Help their Queen get the Iron Throne, protect Missendai's people. Did just all that Gendry- Wanted to be somebody and belong Became Lord of Storm's end Ghost- Wanted to get pet Got pet I think the only two people who didn't get what they really wanted were Davos and Tormund Davos- Really wanted to pass holdings on to his son. Son died though. So he pledged himself to ending the war. Ended the war so he got what he wanted pretty much. Tormund- Want Giant's Milk Didn't get his Milk. Bitter Sweet though ending though with voting rights solving all of the worldly woes of people. To be fair I think it’s safe to say the Northerners / Team Dany who died in 8.3, the Lannisters & Kings Landing and all those wiped out before then didn’t get happy endings. And Jon / Tyrion’s ending was certainly bittersweet given their losses. The fact all the remaining Starks survived 8.3 - 8.6 though...well yeah. That’s definitely not GRRM style lol. Edited May 20, 2019 by Broncofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Calvert28 said: Ghost- Wanted to get pet Got pet That was really all I was waiting for. Satisfying ending to the show. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Forge said: Also wanted Brienne, didn't get Brienne. Got Jon though, who’s arguably just as pretty. Edited May 20, 2019 by LETSGOBROWNIES 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Broncofan said: To be fair I think it’s safe to say the Northerners / Team Dany who died in 8.3, the Lannisters & Kings Landing and all those wiped out before then didn’t get happy endings. And Jon / Tyrion’s ending was certainly bittersweet given their losses. The fact all the remaining Starks survived 8.3 - 8.6 though...well yeah. That’s definitely not GRRM style lol. They died saving their country. Northeners- Wanted to protect the realm from the NK Protected the Realm. Jorah- Wanted to die in the arm of the woman he loves protecting her Did just that. People Kings Landing- Wanted to get rid of the smell of sh*t. Tyrion commisioned new sewers to be built. Lannister- **** those Lannister you're supposed to hate them. They got Ed Shereen as their punishment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Ron Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: No idea if y’all have seen this, but my man @Mega Ron shared it in the Browns forum so I figured I’d drop this little gem off here. That was number 1 in the charts over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 3 hours ago, RavensTillIDie said: I've always wondered about that last part because you're right, very few series have been able to successfully deliver a satisfying, smart ending. No matter how good a show's writing may appear or how many beautiful arcs they've spun up, very few seem to be able to bring it all together in a fitting conclusion. Are endings just that difficult or is it more so an issue related to the medium in which we view these stories? The last one that did, in terms of an ending that's held up, was actually an ending that was hated at the time by a lot of fans because they didn't understand it. It took some going back for another couple views, some critical thinking to hold it up against recurring themes in the show (and in particular in the final two seasons), and a need to not have everything absolutely spelled out for you (though once you realized the symbolism used, you wonder how you could have missed it). That being The Sopranos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 54 minutes ago, NYRaider said: The most diplomatic solution was to let a war prisoner that betrayed the queen time and time again, going as far as telling Jon to kill Dany while he has the chance, decide the new political leadership structure in Westeros and be the hand to the new king? No one's mad that the 2nd most powerful man in Westeros happens to be the man that ordered the hit on the former queen and betrayed her regularly? Hmm... This ain't Deadpool, man. A 4th wall exists in this story. So while the audience knows that Tyrion planted the seed (and watered it and fertilized it) in Jon's head that Dany needed to die, it in no way (none, you're legitimately not going to be able to defend this unless you're suggesting that everyone in a story should have the same knowledge as the audience) means that other characters should/would have that knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavensTillIDie Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 How Game of Thrones Shifted From Sociological Storytelling to Psychological - And Why We All Hate It Quote The show did indeed take a turn for the worse, but the reasons for that downturn goes way deeper than the usual suspects that have been identified (new and inferior writers, shortened season, too many plot holes). It’s not that these are incorrect, but they’re just superficial shifts. In fact, the souring of Game of Thrones exposes a fundamental shortcoming of our storytelling culture in general: we don’t really know how to tell sociological stories. At its best, GOT was a beast as rare as a friendly dragon in King’s Landing: it was sociological and institutional storytelling in a medium dominated by the psychological and the individual. This structural storytelling era of the show lasted through the seasons when it was based on the novels by George R. R. Martin, who seemed to specialize in having characters evolve in response to the broader institutional settings, incentives and norms that surround them. After the show ran ahead of the novels, however, it was taken over by powerful Hollywood showrunners David Benioff and D. B. Weiss. Some fans and critics have been assuming that the duo changed the narrative to fit Hollywood tropes or to speed things up, but that’s unlikely. In fact, they probably stuck to the narrative points that were given to them, if only in outline form, by the original author. What they did is something different, but in many ways more fundamental: Benioff and Weiss steer the narrative lane away from the sociological and shifted to the psychological. That’s the main, and often only, way Hollywood and most television writers tell stories. This is an important shift to dissect because whether we tell our stories primarily from a sociological or psychological point of view has great consequences for how we deal with our world and the problems we encounter. .......... One could, for example, easily focus on the abundance of plot holes. The dragons, for example seem to switch between comic-book indestructible to vulnerable from one episode to another. And it was hard to keep a straight face when Jaime Lannister ended up on a tiny cove along a vast, vast shoreline at the exact moment the villain Euron Greyjoy swam to that very point from his sinking ship to confront him. How convenient! Similarly, character arcs meticulously drawn over many seasons seem to have been abandoned on a whim, turning the players into caricatures instead of personalities. Brienne of Tarth seems to exist for no reason, for example; Tyrion Lannister is all of a sudden turned into a murderous snitch while also losing all his intellectual gifts (he hasn’t made a single correct decision the entire season). And who knows what on earth is up with Bran Stark, except that he seems to be kept on as some sort of extra Stark? But all that is surface stuff. Even if the new season had managed to minimize plot holes and avoid clunky coincidences and a clumsy Arya ex machina as a storytelling device, they couldn’t persist in the narrative lane of the past seasons. For Benioff and Weiss, trying to continue what Game of Thrones had set out to do, tell a compelling sociological story, would be like trying to eat melting ice cream with a fork. Hollywood mostly knows how to tell psychological, individualized stories. They do not have the right tools for sociological stories, nor do they even seem to understand the job. Really good read! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvert28 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) Just realized. Tyrion is in for a nasty surprise if he tries to pull any gold out of Casterly Rock or mine for it. Tywin and Cersei were the only two that knew the gold has run out. So in the end I guess Cersei finally got the last laugh on Tyrion which is what she always wanted. Another Happy Ending. Edited May 20, 2019 by Calvert28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, Mega Ron said: That was number 1 in the charts over here. How the hell was a basic *** cover of the Righteous Brothers a No. 1 hit? Like, that's just a played straight cover. Their voices aren't even that different, just somewhat less croonery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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