Broncofan Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Howler said: Browns are trying to rebuild a culture without distractions. I can't entirely blame them. Going out and drafting Antonio Callaway suggests otherwise. I think we can all agree Dorsey is rebulding the team in his image. Drafting Callaway and Tyreke Hill shows winning matters more - Dorsey just thinks he can win without Gordon's headache. For better or worse he's willing to deal with Callaway's baggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howler Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just now, Gannon12 said: I get that but why not trade him unless it’s something illegal. Like a total Gruden move. I think that's what going on. He will be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just now, Gannon12 said: Yes it has! But he is pro ready he isn’t going to be a David Carr he will turn poop into gold like Russell Wilson. Unless you believe he isn’t ready. I think he could play now, and probably outplay Taylor, but I’d rather sacrifice some experience his rookie year and let him continue to grow and learn the offense and the league on the bench and be absolutely sure. One you put him in, he’s the guy, you don’t pull him, so you need to get it right. I prefer the “measure twice, cut once” idea. Make sure you’re sure, there isn’t a lot of margin for error at that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Broncofan said: Going out and drafting Antonio Callaway suggests otherwise. I think we can all agree Dorsey is rebulding the team in his image. Drafting Callaway and Tyreke Hill shows winning matters more - Dorsey just thinks he can win without Gordon's headache. For better or worse he's willing to deal with Callaway's baggage. Yes! It has to be something illegal and suspension or someone is on acid(or drinking Cleveland tap water) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Broncofan said: Going out and drafting Antonio Callaway suggests otherwise. I think we can all agree Dorsey is rebulding the team in his image. Drafting Callaway and Tyreke Hill shows winning matters more - Dorsey just thinks he can win without Gordon's headache. For better or worse he's willing to deal with Callaway's baggage. Dorsey doesn’t insist on choirboys, but they do have to buy in and get their poop in a group. Gordon has shown an ability to do that. There’s a big difference between a guy who has made mistakes and someone who continues to make them. Gordon always seems like the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr LBC Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dome said: I see no issues with playing Tyrod until Baker is ready, but IMO a QB either has the mental makeup or he doesn’t. Baker has fight through adversity and trials before, I think he’d be fine to throw out there now. Honestly I’d be more worried about Baker if he goes out and becomes a Star right off the bat. I’d be more worried about success getting into his head than failure. He’s a tough kid, the maturity is what worries me I'm more concerned about putting Baker (who htey invested the #1 overall pick in) behind that very questionable OL right now. No reason to make him the second coming of David Carr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dome said: I see no issues with playing Tyrod until Baker is ready, but IMO a QB either has the mental makeup or he doesn’t. Baker has fight through adversity and trials before, I think he’d be fine to throw out there now. I agree, but there’s more than just mental makeup and toughness. Grasp of the playbook, acclimation to the speed of the game, familiarity with teammates, etc.. That’s the stuff any rookie, Baker included, is going to have to learn and adjust to. 3 minutes ago, Dome said: Honestly I’d be more worried about Baker if he goes out and becomes a Star right off the bat. I’d be more worried about success getting into his head than failure. He’s a tough kid, the maturity is what worries me I don’t worry much about that. He’s cocky, maybe a bit immature, but he’s not the first 20 something to do something drunk or run their mouth. He’s been fantastic in the locker room thus far by all accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Dorsey doesn’t insist on choirboys, but they do have to buy in and get their poop in a group. Gordon has shown an ability to do that. There’s a big difference between a guy who has made mistakes and someone who continues to make them. Gordon always seems like the latter. Can’t use denial like the Raiders fans did with the Mack trade. If something is getting him suspended then completely understandable but for no reason at.... then I’m worried you might get a holmgren 2.0 front office. Hope you guys are doing the right thing because you have a legit defense with stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, The LBC said: I'm more concerned about putting Baker (who htey invested the #1 overall pick in) behind that very questionable OL right now. No reason to make him the second coming of David Carr. The line isn’t as bad as it’s made out to be. Tyrod holds the ball forever and a day, just like Kizer did. If we had a QB who knew how to get rid of the ball when they hit the depth of their drop the OL would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just now, Gannon12 said: Can’t use denial like the Raiders fans did with the Mack trade. If something is getting him suspended then completely understandable but for no reason at.... then I’m worried you might get a holmgren 2.0 front office. Hope you guys are doing the right thing because you have a legit defense with stars Yeah, it’s hard to feel any particular way about this until more info comes out. Im guessing there’s a good bit more to the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: The line isn’t as bad as it’s made out to be. Tyrod holds the ball forever and a day, just like Kizer did. If we had a QB who knew how to get rid of the ball when they hit the depth of their drop the OL would be fine. Didn't y'all start an UDFA at LT? But sure blame it on the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Yeah, it’s hard to feel any particular way about this until more info comes out. Im guessing there’s a good bit more to the story. That’s what I believe too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, The LBC said: I'm more concerned about putting Baker (who htey invested the #1 overall pick in) behind that very questionable OL right now. No reason to make him the second coming of David Carr. Our OL still has some question marks, but it's definitely not too bad. Desmond Harrison certainly needs some seasoning, but he showed reasons to be optimistic this past Sunday. The rest of the offensive line is solid. But yeah, there's no need to rush Baker when you have a solid stopgap in Taylor. Although, if Taylor continues to play like he did this past Sunday, then it likely won't be very long until Baker gets his shot. Having said that, I do think Baker could come in now and be ready. I'd just prefer not to put him in yet if it's not absolutely necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannon12 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 It would be a shame to waste your guys’ excellent defense this year with an underwhelming offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, SwoleXmad said: Didn't y'all start an UDFA at LT? But sure blame it on the QB. Did you watch the game? Harrison wasn't perfect but he was hardly the reason Taylor struggled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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