Tetsujin Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 53 minutes ago, crab1106 said: Put on waivers Doesn't make a lot of sense. He was raking with Miami, esp. vs RHP. And he walked a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 3 hours ago, freak_of_nature said: Doesn't make a lot of sense. He was raking with Miami, esp. vs RHP. And he walked a lot. .227 average I think we have different understandings of the word "raking" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 52 minutes ago, Slateman said: .227 average I think we have different understandings of the word "raking" Way to pull 1 season of stats. How about his .902 and .824 OPS the 2 seasons prior? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 if I'm the Orioles, I definitely put a claim on Bour and hope he can regain his form from his best season- a .902 OPS- or his career average of .811. Bour's power will play well at Camden Yards and he is someone they can spin for prospects at the deadline if he has a bounce back year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 14 hours ago, freak_of_nature said: Way to pull 1 season of stats. How about his .902 and .824 OPS the 2 seasons prior? 14 hours ago, naptownskinsfan said: if I'm the Orioles, I definitely put a claim on Bour and hope he can regain his form from his best season- a .902 OPS- or his career average of .811. Bour's power will play well at Camden Yards and he is someone they can spin for prospects at the deadline if he has a bounce back year. 30 years old, can only play first base, career OPS of .811. He's worth taking a flyer on by a team without much going for it. But the fact that he couldn't hit in Philly is concerning to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 So huge grain of salt because it's Nightengale, but man .... I'm actually surprised more teams don't do this more often. Eating salary on a player like Grienke is effectively buying prospects. Maybe overpaying, but still giving you a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsujin Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 19 minutes ago, Slateman said: 30 years old, can only play first base, career OPS of .811. He's worth taking a flyer on by a team without much going for it. But the fact that he couldn't hit in Philly is concerning to say the least. He's a good platoon guy at worst (career 0.853 OPS vs RHP). Someone could build a nice 1B platoon for cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, freak_of_nature said: He's a good platoon guy at worst (career 0.853 OPS vs RHP). Someone could build a nice 1B platoon for cheap. Don't disagree. Worth a team taking a flyer. I think the Phillies are clearing room to trade for Goldy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crab1106 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Slateman said: So huge grain of salt because it's Nightengale, but man .... I'm actually surprised more teams don't do this more often. Eating salary on a player like Grienke is effectively buying prospects. Maybe overpaying, but still giving you a chance. A Grienke/Goldschmidt deal is definitely something Cashman should be looking into. That would get him one of his SP and improve a area of weakness is one foul swoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Never change Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Slateman said: So huge grain of salt because it's Nightengale, but man .... I'm actually surprised more teams don't do this more often. Eating salary on a player like Grienke is effectively buying prospects. Maybe overpaying, but still giving you a chance. I'd definitely see the Cardinals being interested in a package like this. Especially if they can help mitigate that salary by sending out Dexter Fowler as well. Folwer is due $49.5M over the next 3 years, where as Greinke is due $104.5M over the next 3 years. It'd be like getting Greinke at 3 years, $55M which is SIGNIFICANTLY more palatable. A Fowler+prospects for Greinke/Goldschmidt deal would be HUGE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 24 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I'd definitely see the Cardinals being interested in a package like this. Especially if they can help mitigate that salary by sending out Dexter Fowler as well. Folwer is due $49.5M over the next 3 years, where as Greinke is due $104.5M over the next 3 years. It'd be like getting Greinke at 3 years, $55M which is SIGNIFICANTLY more palatable. A Fowler+prospects for Greinke/Goldschmidt deal would be HUGE. What kind of package would the Cards have to put together to add to Dex to get that done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, MOSteelers56 said: What kind of package would the Cards have to put together to add to Dex to get that done? The whole system tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 3 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Never change Bobby Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: The whole system tbh. If Paul Goldschmidt was signed beyond this year, I'd probably be inclined to agree. But he's a FA at the end of the year, and there's really no incentive to sign an extension at this point. If we project the price of WAR at $10M/WAR, that's roughly $50M in value which gives us a surplus value of $35.5M. Using that same WAR estimation for Greinke and an average WAR of 3 WAR/year, you're looking at roughly $90M in value giving you a surplus of -$13.2M. Add those two together, and you're getting roughly $22.3M in surplus value between the two of them. Looking back at Point of Pittsburgh, you're looking at a hitter in that 51-75 range or a pitcher in that 51-75 range plus more. The problem is the Cardinals' farm system isn't overly strong at the top. I suppose the offer would start with someone like Luke Weaver or Dakota Hudson and work from there. Maybe even Carson Kelly perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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