Kiwibrown Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Mind Character said: Never heard of Rodney Gunter ... will have to check him out. Is he any good? 4.5 sacks and 11 tackles for a loss, for the cards. Connected to wilks 6'5" 305 pounds. 2015 4th rounder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Yeah Better than Coley even. Not that high of a bar, IMO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, DawgX said: Not that high of a bar, IMO. Lol ya think 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, DawgX said: Not that high of a bar, IMO. Coley was a surprise 2 years ago and outplayed Shelton. Last he was hampered by the high ankle sprain. Dude should have never played those first couple of weeks last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 OBR browns have reached out to Justin Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Curious move here. Would be insane depth. Can he play 4-3 OLB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I assumed our trade with the NYG negated potential interest to shell out money for Houston. At this point I’d prefer spending that money elsewhere unless Houston is short-term. Go get a young DE in the draft at some point and continue to develop Avery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Mind Character said: Never heard of Rodney Gunter ... will have to check him out. Is he any good? Yes. Pass rushing 3 tech in Wilks’ defense. He’s young. Edited March 10, 2019 by pnies20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: OBR browns have reached out to Justin Houston Awesome! I’ve never seen a team have too many pass rushers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Awesome! I’ve never seen a team have too many pass rushers. Garrett against guards is unfair. I would love to see him inside more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Awesome! I’ve never seen a team have too many pass rushers. What if they move Garrett to 3 tech in some situations 😂 vernon/Garrett/Ogunjobi/Houston 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: Garrett against guards is unfair. I would love to see him inside more. 1 minute ago, pnies20 said: What if they move Garrett to 3 tech in some situations 😂 vernon/Garrett/Ogunjobi/Houston Yessir. We’ve got the money, spend it on some DL and let’s roll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Vernon Garrett larry Houston Blitz Avery from the linebacker spot. That is a hell of a pass rush on 3rd down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) If we get Justin Houston, it wouldn't make financial sense longterm as he's going to get 10-15 million a year and that money can be used elsewhere on our roster. That's starter money with potential big dead money cap hit built in. He's problematic financially because he could end up having a big dead money cap hit in 2 years along with various other players currently on the roster at the wrong time financially for us (the season prior to preparing our books to sign Baker, Myles, and Ward). If we do bring him in somehow, it means that Ogbah heading into his final year is definitely gone sooner rather than later. Sometime soon I'm going to breakdown in-depth how our "tons of salary cap space" is a phantom produced by brilliant salary cap manipulation by Sashi and DePo via the salary cap carry over rule after two year of purging big cap numbers, as well as smart management of dead money. How we're not really in the great salary cap position that people think we're in due to popularization of factoids like "the Browns have the most cap in the league... they have tons of cap space." If we're not careful we're going to be in serious trouble financially in 3 years b/c our cash payroll is actually in the middle of the league. Our player payroll ranks 14th highest in the league this year (most people perceive us to have on of the lowest in the league but it's not the case); on the books for 2020 we'll be 9th; and the following year in 2021 we're projected to be 6th highest . Without the Salary cap carry over we'd have about 13 million in cap space based on the Top-51 salary index at spotrac (188 million league decided salary cap number Minus 175 million top 51 payroll cap committments). When adding in the dead money for this year of 15 million, we'd actually be in the negatives (-2 million). This year ... We carried over 56 million to create an inflated cap space number of 244 million. For comparison, the 5th highest carry over number was 18 million. The point of this all is to say that carrying over the cap doesn't last forever as eventually owners don't want to maintain high payrolls. The offseason that we decide to reduce our carry over we could be in trouble 2 to 3 years from now unless we manage our contracts with expert care from here on out. We won't be in trouble next year, but we're on the path to serious cap trouble that a lot of teams have been on and didn't manage well to their detriment. With a QB contract, top DE contract, and top CB in the pipeline for the future... it's best not to take on big cap numbers that we'll have to cut early with big dead money hits. Justin Houston is one of that variety imo. Edited March 11, 2019 by Mind Character 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedTheClock Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 43 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: Curious move here. Would be insane depth. Can he play 4-3 OLB? Houston? Not anymore. Maybe 4-5 years ago he could have. He's definitely a DE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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