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Starters you want back in 2019

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which starts do you think are back in 2019? Or starters you want back

Here is my list:

QB: Carr

RB: Lynch

WR: ?

WR: ?

TE: Cook 

T: Miller, Parker

G: KO, Jackson

C: Hudson

DE: ? , ?

DT: Jelly, ?

OLB: Whitehead, ?

MLB: ?

CB: Worley, Conely, Nelson

S: ?, ?

K: ?

P: ?

LS: Sieg

 

about 11 new starts needed, half a team...... I would bring Lynch on a one year deal, last year in Oakland... what starters do you want back???

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key to get a new OL coach, and be nice to get a new young OC Gruden can mentor. Gruden is trying to call plays, GM, and head coach a team... too much for one man.... I wouldn't even mind getting a new DC

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I really have no idea about who will actually be brought back, no-one appears to be safe from the guillotine but these are the guys I'd like to see us now build around or use as depth:

QB: Carr - this year has been bad but he's the best QB we've had in a while so worth persevering with

RB: Lynch, Richard - Lynch still looks like he has some gas left in the tank, Richard as CoP back

WR: Nelson - professional vet to help any drafted receivers

TE: Cook, Smith - receiver and blocker

OL: Miller, KO, Hudson, Gabe, Parker - to be supplemented with a vet OT and maybe a draft pick

DL: Key, Hurst, Ellis, Hall - need desperately to get another pass rusher by draft or FA, hope they keep Brown and Vanderdoes around and see if they have anything to offer as rotation

LB: Lee, Morrow - more for depth and as they're cheap, we can draft/sign LBs to challenge for the start

CB: Melvin, Worley, Conley - all 3 look decent to me even with no pass rush but Melvin seems almost certainly on his way out, Nelson should be kept around too

S: Harris, Joseph - we still don't really know what we have with either

Kickers: none - we should just pick up a couple FA vets

 

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Oakland Raiders 2019 (CREATED: 11/05/2018 4:34 PM)

# PLAYER POS. AGE EXPIRES 2019 CAP FIGURE
1 Rodney Hudson C 30 2020 $10,017,000
2 A.J. McCarron QB 28 2020 $5,000,000
3 Justin Ellis DT 28 2021 $4,750,000
4 Karl Joseph SS 25 2021 $3,781,374
5 Kolton Miller LT 23 2023 $3,061,664
6 Gareon Conley CB 24 2022 $2,854,752
7 Kyle Wilber OLB 30 2020 $1,750,000
8 Derek Carrier TE 29 2021 $1,700,000
9 P.J. Hall DT 24 2022 $1,069,154
10 Brandon Parker T 23 2022 $930,758
11 Andrew DePaola LS 32 2022 $905,000
12 Eddie Vanderdoes DT 24 2021 $869,303
13 Arden Key DE 23 2022 $829,439
14 DeAndre Washington RB 26 2020 $787,302
15 Nick Nelson CB 22 2022 $744,670
16 Marquel Lee ILB 23 2021 $708,423
17 Maurice Hurst DT 24 2022 $649,761
18 Nicholas Morrow OLB 24 2020 $647,500
19 David Sharpe T 23 2021 $645,000
20 Eddy Piniero K 23 2021 $578,333
21 Chris Warren RB 23 2021 $570,000

 

Derek Carr traded for a 1st minimum

KO trade for a 4th

Gabe Jackson traded for a conditional 6th

I will keep Jordy Nelson if he is will to take less money.

We would now have in the next 2 years: 6 1st rounders, 1 2nd, 3 3rds, 3 4ths, possibly 3 5ths, 2 6ths, and 3 7ths.  That is 21 picks without anymore trades or comp picks.

CAP TOTALS

Dead Cap

# PLAYER POS. AGE   2019 CAP
1 Derek Carr QB 28   $7,500,000
2 Donald Penn RT 36   $2,750,000
3 Obi Melifonwu S 25   $709,774
4 David Sharpe T 23   $293,206
5 Johnny Townsend P 24   $163,165
6 Connor Cook QB 26   $154,972
7 Azeem Victor ILB 23   $88,806
8 Marcell Ateman WR 24   $69,777
9 Shalom Luani S 25   $47,206
10 Jylan Ware T 25   $42,146
11 Treyvon Hester DT 26   $34,300
12 Vadal Alexander RT 25   $19,212
19 Keith Smith FB 27   $0
18 Lee Smith TE 31   $0
17 Seth Roberts WR 28   $0
16 Tahir Whitehead OLB 29   $0
15 Gabe Jackson G 28   $0
14 Jordy Nelson WR 34   $0
13 Kelechi Osemele G 30   $0

 

We would have very little talent but crazy flexibility to fill out the roster.  They want to rebuild so I completely blew the team up.  I am not saying Carr is doomed but if he does not progress I can see him being the Reggie Nelson of the offense.

 

A really easy way to do this is on Spotrac with their manage roster feature.  You can even sign FAs.

 

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QB - Carr

RB - Warren

FB -

WR -

TE -

 

OT - Miller

OG - KO, Jackson

C - Hudson

 

DE - Key

DT - Hurst, Hall

LB - Morrow

CB -

FS -

SS -

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7 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said:

 

You nailed it. I’d put Hurst in there to though and Carr is up in the air. 

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here is my updated 22 Mark Davis

QB: Carr

RB:  ????    3rd Down Back- Rocket Richard - a gem, great receiving back

WR:  ????

WR: ????

TE: Cook. new 2-3 year deal

LT: Kolton

LG: KO - fire Cable instead of breaking up the interior of the line

C: Hudson

RG: Jackson- overpaid but I'll rather address other positions. could be better in another scheme 

RT: Parker

DE: ????

DE: ????????   SubPackage Edge- Key he is doing fine for a rookie at getting pressures... don't compare to Mack

DT: Hankins or Jelly-  keep one or the other, Hankins offers more pass rush

UT:  Hurst/Hall - high on both players

OLB: Whitehead- he is a good player against the run, due to lack of depth we are asking him to other duties

OLB: ???????

MLB: ????????     

CB: Conley- not sure what Gruden sees in him, but I see the tools

CB: Worley- young solid pickup.....  Nickel: Nelson getting more playing time and hasn't been getting picked on

S: Joseph- I'm still a believer in Karl

S: ????????

 

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As for starters:

QB: Carr

OT: Miller, Parker

OC: Hudson

OG: Jackson, KO?!...if we let Cable go and the new OL coach wants KO I would keep him as well. The new OL coach will still run a ZBS heavy OL scheme, since Gruden needs that for the WCO. With that said I think a quality OL coach can work well in that scheme with KO too.

NT: Jelly/Hankins

DT: Hurst

SLB: Lee

CB: Conley and maybe Worley and Melvin...ideally I would like to bring in a veteran guy like Dennard to really battle out that #1 and #2 spot...Melvin could stay if he is on board with the staff. Worley should be back and we see in what capacity.

K: Carlson...so far so good, should have a nice competition with Pineiro

P: Townsend...looks to get his legs under him after all, still not super convinced, we at least need a veteran for competition

LS: Sieg

 

Guys who I would like to see back as depth, rotation

QB: McCarron is a solid back up option for us

RB: Richard, Washington, Warren

TE: Smith

WR: Ateman and Nelson if he really wants to stay

OL: Silberman, Felciano and I would be open to bring back Penn 

DE: Key, Brown and Calhoun

DT:  Hall, Vanderdoes and I would be willing to bring back Jelly even if Hankins is on board as a starter over him

LB: Morrow, Cabinda, Wilber...Morrow hopefully get some looks as the starting WLB instead of Whitehead. If he wins over PG, I would be willing to see him as a starter, but I would definately bring him back as depth. Cabinda should make his case in the remaining games, I would keep him as MLB depth for sure, ideally we would upgrade finally the MLB spot. Wilber could stick mainly as a ST guy

CB: Nelson should stay and have a chance for a NCB role 

S: Joseph, Harris...Harris is a core ST player and I would really like to see Karl back...maybe even as a starter if he comes up strong the rest of the way.

 

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On 11/5/2018 at 2:50 PM, NJ Raider said:

I love lynch, but I don’t want having him stopping us from getting a more dynamic back. 

Already has for 2 offseasons now. Plus catering a blocking scheme to fit him. And now you get a weak RB class in this draft class. 

That said, I can't see him coming back. Time to move on if you're serious about rebuilding. 

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Damn Hudson is younger than I thought he was. 

^^^^ BP is right. Lynch is most likely done. We missed out last year on all the backs. Wasted a pick on a LBer that didn’t even make it

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2 hours ago, Gannon12 said:

Damn Hudson is younger than I thought he was. 

^^^^ BP is right. Lynch is most likely done. We missed out last year on all the backs. Wasted a pick on a LBer that didn’t even make it

?? Victor was picked at the end of round 6. What RB did you want down there that would be having an impact?

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3 minutes ago, big_palooka said:

?? Victor was picked at the end of round 6. What RB did you want down there that would be having an impact?

Just being salty lol. We had (have) too many holes to not pick a position of need.

 Nick Chubb Freeman Penny would have been nice but we are totally void of talent everywhere so captain hindsight shows us the way. Coulda shoulda woulda

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